Section 512 roundtable part 3

SESSION 3: Domestic Developments
           
Richard James Burgess American Association of Independent
Music: Not much different from 2016. Notice and takedown hasn’t helped with
staydown; still need to send lots of notice. Optimistic about EU Copyright
Directive.
Alex Feerst Medium: Runs Trust & Safety—moderators’
dilemma and the way that red flag knowledge hangs over a team trying to make a
thoughtful and civil space while taking down violent/terrorist content.
Devlin Hartline Center for the Protection of Intellectual
Property, Antonin Scalia Law School, George Mason University: 512 is not intended
to be solely notice and takedown regime; incentives to cooperate to detect
& deal with © infringement. Service providers were to play a role in
preventing infringement, finding and removing it w/o input from © owners,
through red flag knowledge standards. Lose safe harbors if aware of
facts/circumstances from which infringing activity is apparent. Courts have
read this so narrowly that a fire engine on fire would be necessary. Google’s
ability to index the Pirate Bay is an example. Properly understood, red flag knowledge
is general knowledge of infringement on the platform, not specific
infringements, and the burden of investigating should fall on the service
provider.
Catherine Gellis The Copia Institute: Don’t let the sky is falling rhetoric skew the recommendations.
The sky is rising—the pie is growing, there is more revenue, more works due to
the internet. Really careful not to kill the golden goose. Copia Institute just
released a report aggregating a lot of the data providing the evidentiary
record.  There’s still cause for alarm
about pressures on platforms and individual creators: the effect of
unadjudicated claims of infringement. This is the only area of law where
reactions are required where there is never any adjudication.
Eric Goldman Santa Clara University School of Law: 512(f): pulled
all of the cases since 2017; about 25 such cases, less than ½ substantively
analyzed. I didn’t find any cases where a plaintiff actually won in court
during the period; not inconsistent w/past jurisprudence, w/only 2 512(f) victories
in 21 years.
Joseph Gratz Durie Tangri LLP: Not that many cases since the
last set of roundtables. The system is basically working; the players have reached
a rough modus vivendi leading to less large-scale litigation on the order of
Giganews or Viacom.  The case law shows
the flexibility of current law and the ability of courts to take into account
specific situations, whether that is in the context of repeat infringers,
expeditious removal, willful misrepresentation.
Jared Polin FroKnowsPhoto: YT channel/photographer.  I built everything off of free, hoping people
will support me with what I sell.  I have
two full time employees from the channel. 
Tamber Ray NTCA ― The Rural Broadband Association: 850 rural
broadband providers, covering 33% of the US landmass, the sole provider in many
of their communities. Hard to reconcile Cox/Grande and Peckingham cases. They
have followed through on suspending repeat infringers, but are still getting
the same number of infringement notices. Want guidance on responsibilities.
Robert Schwartz Consumer Technology Association: Toleration,
accommodation, and implied license matter a lot. Overenforcement would hurt the
creators it intended to help.
Christian Troncoso Business Software Alliance: Dual
interests—content providers & hosts. There are frustrations on content
protection side, but enterprise cloud service operators also have frustrations—tends
to show that the compromise was fair in the end. End users are also important
stakeholders subject to the outcomes here.
Kate Tummarello Engine: American ecosystem is thriving due
to laws such as the DMCA. Startups support safe harbors to avoid ruinous
infringement claims. Bad actors send false notices to startups and that’s a
problem but we support the overall framework.
Ping Wang Freelancer/writer: user involvement.
Nancy Wolff   Digital
Media Licensing Association: Fingerprinting tech is available, but little
incentive to do any type of filtering, and little incentive to develop
licensing systems. Curation makes a better website, but there aren’t licensing
models.  [I have the sad feeling that
most of the people here don’t know what Livejournal is/was; the description in
the case comes close to describing the specific community at issue but has no
relationship whatsoever to the journaling function that the site mainly and
overall supports.]
Q re 512(f).
Gratz: not a sufficient deterrent for many kinds of abusive
notices and counternotices. There haven’t been many litigated cases b/c what’s
at stake isn’t always enough to support litigation. We may be seeing a greater
number of those cases even under the current standard, not b/c of Lenz, but b/c
of increasing and new ways that internet intermediaries are part of economic
activity, as on Etsy. The competitive incentives to send bogus notifications
and counternotifications will become so large that they’ll provide economic
incentives for litigation.
Isbell: Etsy alluded to fraud in notices/counternotices; use
for harassment.  Goldman mentioned
several cases since we last heard from people but no plaintiffs have won.  Is that a good thing/bad thing?  Problem w/law or courts?
Goldman: data suggest that either there aren’t abuses worth
litigating or that the law is miscalibrated to protect against those abuses,
and the evidence suggests the latter. There’s no real incentive to do homework
before sending a notice. There’s also often a lot of background dispute
information, e.g., a dispute over a screenplay. The ISP is not in a good place
to resolve that. The notice is a way for the parties to fight.
Greenberg: relatively few counternotices are filed; abusive
counternotices exist too. 512(f) case of Johnson v. New Destiny Community Church—courts
apply the same standards to both?
Goldman: correct. There are so many things that have to go
right for a counternotice to be filed in the first place—the user has to know
their rights and be willing to take the risk. 
The system has little to encourage that.
Smith: if you’re focused on users being educated & confident
enough, then would it make it harder for users to file counternotice if you
loosen up standard for liability for false notices?
Goldman: they’re a nonfactor today so it wouldn’t have a
material effect on the filing of counternotices. Focusing on abuses of notices
is the place to start.
Polin: YT hits me with claims—many times I have permission
or it’s fair use. It’s simple to file a counternotice on YT.  I generally win b/c we try to stick to good
practices including on fair use.  YT does
a good job for us.
Wolff: visual content online: the counternotice really puts
the content owner at a disadvantage, particularly if the counternotice is in
bad faith, b/c you can’t afford to go to court and file a claim w/in 10 days.
If you don’t have a © registration before that, you have to spend $800 and find
a lawyer. Improper counternotifications are harmful.
Wang: EU’s Directive provides an answer.  YT is only part of the ecosystem.  100s of my pieces are taken on other
sites.  Google can fix it easily but they
don’t because they earn money.
Q: where are these posted?
Wang: around the world where there are Chinese communities—different
websites.  I don’t blame small forums w/a
couple hundred people but Google has an easier solution.  I shouldn’t have to file a notice. They
should have to ask permission before they use my stuff. 
Gratz: counternotices v. notices.  It’s not that anyone who fails to send a counternotice
worries about 512(f). They worry about whether it will lead to litigation, even
when they’re very certain they’d prevail. Even if you’re really sure that the
dragon is wrong, you’re waking a sleeping dragon.
Gellis: Notice gaming is a problem—people are sending
notices to ensure that speakers use up their strikes. The more important it is
for a platform, esp. the larger platforms, to have a specific rubric about how
many complaints they have to receive before they terminate a speaker, the
easier it is to game that to eliminate a speaker that someone doesn’t like.
Greenberg: are there studies on this?
Gellis: anecdotal accounts. 
[I
collect these
.  One
link
.  Another.
There are also a bunch mentioned in Google’s additional comments from last time
around.  EFF also submitted additional comments
on this last time around, e.g.:
One OSP surveyed in the study by
U.C. Berkeley School of Law researchers described “cases where allegedly
abusive ex-husbands have filed DMCA complaints against images their ex-wife had
posted as a means of attempting to get her current address.” According to an
amicus brief filed on her behalf in Lenz v. Universal Music, when YouTube
creator Rebecca Prince considered filing a counter-notice in response to an
abusive notice, she “feared that gaining her sensitive information was in fact
what this person wanted so he or she could use it to ‘dox’ her – that is, to
release her identifying information online to further harass and intimidate her
…
[RT continues: the most recent empirical study
of which I am aware
suggests that there are a lot of ungiven counternotices
for plausibly noninfringing content, but that study doesn’t get to the level of
sorting abuse v. mistake.  We also have a
qualitative decision to make about how much we care about one instance of
doxxing per X instances of accurate or wrong-but-reasonable notifications.]
Hartline: of course bogus takedowns are a problem, but
hyperfocus on this misses the forest for the trees. Google’s transparency
report: over 4 billion URLs, vast majority of which are illegit [which gets
back to the basic point, which is that not everyone is Google—like Amazon
Kindle, many sites receive more bogus takedowns than legit takedowns. If you
make © policy for Google, you will ensure that only Google survives.]. Lenz was
wrong b/c not having bad faith is not the same thing as having good faith.
Feerst: when we get a notice that seems defective/doesn’t
seem to make sense, we often engage w/ the sender. There’s a large number of
folks who don’t get the gravity of sending a takedown—they say things like “I’m
not gonna do your job for you” and don’t provide a URL or a name.  We want to help folks give us information if
content is truly bad. But the relative sloppiness of what we get is just a
frustration.
Smith: it sounds like the “expeditious” flexibility you have
is helping you figure out what’s really going on.
Feerst: the way you’re framing it, the risk that we have to
take on is that “expeditious” might be defined later. We do take on additional
risk to help folks.  Whether that’s fair
is another Q.
Smith: you’re comfortable with the risk.
Feerst: not how he’d put it.
Isbell: automated notices v. forms: any change?
Burgess: concern about emphasis on hearsay and rumor.  Small content owners have given up.
Polis: as a small content creator, doesn’t want the gatekeepers
shutting the gates again.  Some musicians
may not be making as much money, but you have to use what’s here today. Lots of
the musicians I photograph, I have a larger online presence than they do.
Q: re automated notices.
Ray: we get notices from multiple sources and can’t verify
that they’re all legit. Or we get multiple notices for the same song for the
same user and we can’t determine what is duplicative.  If we get multiple notices from different
email accounts for the same user and same content, a P could say “you got 100
notices about this account on the same day and acted only on one.”  Huge recordkeeping burden.
Wolff: we’ve always had a level of human involvement—have to
check whether a work was licensed or not. 
She recommends that members say they considered fair use in their threat
letters. The problem is the system itself; many have given up.
Greenberg: numbers of notices as strength v. weakness?
Gratz: not here for Google, though previously represented
them. The number verges on meaningless b/c the vast bulk are for sites or items
that were never indexed in the first place. People use the Google search result
takedown form as a general “I haven’t seen this on Google, but this link
infringes” form. So the number isn’t likely to be particularly meaningful
especially at the difference between double-digit millions primarily sent by
automated systems.
Troncoso: Ideal structure for takedown framework: part of
the difficulty is the sheer diversity of stakeholders under the statute—search engines,
social media, enterprise cloud companies that provide services to other 512(c)
systems—coming up w/ a single system that works for all is different. So too
with content, types of industries, types of licensing. That’s why we think the
DMCA has done a fairly good job allowing for bespoke systems to arise. Google
is doing things not required by the statute, like deindexing content before it
appears. Google has the incentive to make sure they’re limiting the resources
they have to throw at the problem before the links populate. Balancing the
interests of all actors is not easy but all things considered the DMCA is
pretty good.
Schwartz: Google is also a member of CTA, whose view has been
that w/all these variables and difficulties the burden for initiation has to be
on the rightsholder.
Goldman: a lot of activity is outside the scope of (c) and
(f) altogether—the waning scope of both of those laws. First, the fastlane for
rightsholders—more trusted interactions w/ the service and their actions aren’t
covered by (c) or (f).  Second,
prefiltering-type removals aren’t within those provision either.  Could we develop an optimal scheme for (c) or
(f)?  First we have to recognize the
decreasing percentage of these interactions actually covered.
Wong: Google claims to pay lots to creators and to remove
links, but never tell us how much money they made by using content w/o
permission.
Hartline: Lenz is wrong: absence of good faith isn’t bad
faith. Wrong as a matter of policy: if you don’t have to consider fair use, why
don’t you have to consider the other defenses? Even w/in Lenz, you can use an
algorithm to assess whether you can take something down. It’s much harder to
assess whether something is noninfringing than it is to assess whether it’s infringing.  [This is an obviously nonsensical statement
that is justified by the larger explanation that fair uses are
infringing-but-excused, but that’s not true even if you disregard the words of
the statute (which you should not) and just think about the broader difference
between a defense and excuse.  It is
particularly interesting to find this argument made alongside the argument that
the absence of good faith isn’t bad faith. 
That one’s actually more understandable!]

Gratz: a good heart and an empty head is not good enough for 512.
Burgess: the DMCA is not working according to any content
creators I know.  [The 1936
Literary Digest poll
might have some lessons.]
Isbell: 512(h) and (j)?
Gellis: we’ve also ignored 512(h).  There hasn’t been a ton of caselaw
percolating.  Not convinced there’s
adequate protections built in for users, however we consider the subpoena
interests. Due process right to anonymous speech should be meaningful.
Gratz: a large number of subpoenas from Strike 3 Holdings!
In a number of other cases where subpoenas issued, many courts have because of
potentially embarrassing nature of material at issue put protections in place
to allow cases to proceed w/o permitting the public disclosure of the identity
of the accused infringer. That’s an important development that helps separate
out © from anonymity interest and protects against reputation threats used as
leverage.
Wolff: porn cases skew decisions. Uploading content shouldn’t
be equivalent to engaging in speech, if it’s not your own.  [I’ll remember that the next time I recite
the kaddish.]  Can’t necessarily determine
whether someone is even in the US.
Goldman: 512(h) is an artifact of a different time; wouldn’t
be drafted the same way today. We don’t provide court-unsupervised access to
others’ identity in other situations. Elsewhere, identifying a tortious actor
requires a court’s permission. That’s not the deal we’d strike today; an anachronism.
The fast lane has become a source of copyright trolling—lawsuits with the sole
intent of extracting settlements. Noteworthy when a judge said that wouldn’t be
allowed.  In the WHOIS context, the availability
of info about domain name registrants won’t automatically be given, and most
registrants use a privacy service. 2010s model would give more weight to
privacy.
Isbell: 512(j): is that just DOA? Do we care? Should we
care?
Goldman: Has logged every 512(j) case he’s seen; was
supposed to be integral part of the structure. It was supposed to let ISPs
avoid financial liability but allow ©
owners to get injunctive relief. They could do that and he doesn’t understand
why that hasn’t been more widely explored.
Ray: 512(h): echoing previous statements—subpoenas are used
not to protect © but to gain access to personal information used to threaten embarrassment.
We want help figuring out what to do; some targets may be outside the court’s
jurisdiction.

Gratz: puzzled about the same thing as Isbell. 
Lack of 512(j) cases is an indication of how cooperation has happened
between OSPs and takedown senders, not in the sense of holding hands and trying
to do best possible solutions, but instead in that 512(j) allows you to force
the OSP to do what it is otherwise incentivized to do—to take things down, terminate
subscribers who are habitual infringers. Because those things happen anyway w/o
the injunction, we don’t see a lot of those injunctions; their purpose has
already been achieved.
Isbell: repeat infringers?
Tumarello: appreciate the flexibility of Motherless, but
some certainty is really important for startups who want to know they’re doing
the right thing, tell investors.
Isbell: what would do that? Statutory reform, best
practices?
Tumarello: anything that was consensus-based and reflected
the views of small companies. We’d want startups to have input.
Schwartz: We got into Cox as amicus on contributory infringement
side. Generally, one thing that hasn’t been mentioned is the terrific abuse
that was part of the notices that Cox received. They rejected the ones that had
license offers attached to them; the courts have generally taken a dim view of
those types of “notices.” That’s not to justify the other unfortunate things
Cox did.
Gellis: Cox dealt with this head-on: Cox’s argument was that
accruals for termination shouldn’t be contingent on anything but adjudicated
claims. The problem w/ the system is that an allegation can have such an effect
on a speaker and on a platform. The Cox court wasn’t worried but it is a big
problem, because it turns into a prior restraint based on a nonadjudicated
claim. Undercurrent: sometimes infringing is black and white, and sometimes
noninfringing is, but often it’s not. Seeing a watermark, for example, is
ambiguous.  You need more information in many
cases! The senders are getting it wrong; if the senders do, the platforms have
no hope of doing so either. They’re forced to defer to the complaint and
presume it legitimate, which is hostile to expression and to the future rights
of users—YouTube strikes accrued are serious concerns for speakers because
their entire channel can be taken away.
Smith: Cox isn’t really about the expression of repeat
infringers.  If we don’t want the perfect
to be the enemy of the good, is there any room for these policies?
Gellis: as Schwartz says, there were significant problems
with huge numbers of the claims Cox received and the district court rejected
many of those notices.  But the court
ignored the impact of having such a barrage of bad claims on Cox’s duty to
regard the remainder of them as valid, despite its experience showing that so
many were invalid in form and substance. 
The court didn’t like Cox blacklisting Rightscorp but didn’t discuss why
it had been blacklisted. Even if we want to treat filesharing differently, we
can’t ignore the abuse there—and we can’t just transfer those rules to social
media where there’s a lot more expression.
Gratz: yes, a continuum is critically necessary in the context
of repeat infringer policies. Different kinds of ISPs, different kinds of
subscribers, different kinds of activities—all factor into what kind of policy
is reasonable and whether a particular user should be terminated. ISPs that
care take that all into account, wanting to get rid of abusers but not noninfringing
speech or users who make mistakes. The difference between conduit ISPs and edge
services is very important here. 
Consider the Copyright Alert system: a way of doing graduated response
where the ultimate sanction was very serious: conduit termination. The reason
Packingham is important is not necessarily b/c the First Amendment imposes
limits on Congress’s ability to act here, though it may, but b/c it points out
as a policy matter that these other things of importance to us as a society—child
abuse—yield to the necessity of access to the internet.
Greenberg: (a) and (c) have different requirements in the statute,
though Cox may change obligations of (a) services. How are conduits reconciling
that their obligations may be not that different?
Gratz: From the POV of a conduit service—it’s still not a
notice and takedown situation; it factors
into whether someone is a repeat infringer.
Ray: Qs: what are our obligations to forward notices? Do we
have to forward settlement demands? A big Q for our members.  Invalid DMCA notices, e.g. when they’re sent
to our non-DMCA agent—can we disregard those when we have a valid DMCA agent
& address?  Members are concerned
w/Grande.  It put a pretty hefty obligation
on ISPs w/o taking into account concerns about number of valid/invalid email
addresses and notices. Also, what do we do with public wifi?  Tech helps some for P2P networking—availability
of streaming services has changed member behavior—but what happens when
members/subscribers have open wifi?  Subscribers
are often happy to operate open wifi & another person can sit on the street
and use it. What are we to do?  Also a
need for coordination w/states/FCC.  Service
is considered a fundamental service so disconnecting someone is a big deal to
avoid trouble w/states.
Feerst: strategic uses of batching/attempts to silence
users: we do see it in our Lumen notices. It’s not frequent but it’s real.  An investigative journalism publication out
of Ecuador was using Flickr photos of politicians posted by the gov’t of
Ecuador. Gov’t send takedown notices and a request to ban account for
infringement.  That’s marginal now but
suggests potential for mischief around repeat infringer policy.  The risk of having to go to summary judgment
is a six-figure cost that can be deadly for a startup.  He had no guidance in making that risk
determination.

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Section 512 Roundtable part two

Sofia Castillo
Association of American Publishers: still bad.
Stephen Carlisle Nova
Southeastern University: has one client, a small music publisher, and can’t
keep stuff down.  Red flag knowledge
should come from having a full song + album cover on YouTube.
Caleb Donaldson
Google: DMCA is balanced and supports $6 billion of YT ad revenue to music
industry alone, along with 17 million Americans selling their creativity
online.
Kenneth L. Doroshow
Recording Industry Association of America: Not good enough. Motherless: evident
problems w/takedown practice didn’t preclude safe harbor.
Douglas T. Hudson Etsy:
2 million microbusinesses & creators not fully represented in these
discussions.  Have seen dramatic increase
in false takedowns, phishing and scamming, and other abuses.  Have seen false counternotices.  Need more teeth in antifraud, including
512(f). Should simplify DMCA for microbusinesses w/small library of materials.
Prefilters don’t work for everyone. When you deal in physical goods, creative
services that don’t match digital content, it’s not a viable solution; 512’s
flexibility allows all creative endeavors, not just digital audio/video
Keith Kupferschmid
Copyright Alliance: mass © infringement is regular and ISPs are routinely
shielded from liability. 2 years: more of the same; red flag has been written
out of the statute. Repeat infringer decisions are no panacea. Fourth Estate
compounds the problem by adding a registration requirement to the DMCA notice
requirements.  New limits on WHOIS
database = we are worse off than two years ago.
Arthur Levy
Association of Independent Music Publishers: Whack a mole is still a
problem.  Lack resources to enforce
rights=DMCA offers no remedy. Should seek legislative rebalancing.
Peter Midgley Brigham
Young University: we’re content owners and a big ISP for our students/faculty;
administrative burdens and uncertainty following Cox and Grande are
problematic.
Sasha Moss R Street
Institute: DMCA is better than the alternatives.
Mary Rasenberger      Authors Guild: Ebook piracy is big.  512 isn’t incentivizing cooperation and
notice and takedown is ludicrous. Authors’ main issue is that we can’t address
ebook piracy sites—hide behind 512. 
Switch burden to ISPs as EU Directive does.
Amer: repeat
infringer policies: general Q: to what extent have recent decisions affected or
clarified the state of the law?
Midgley: we want
clarity on what that policy should be. We do our best to forward the notice to
the user, but we can’t always do it given the dynamic nature of our network.
Students get a scary legal notice & show up in my office denying any
knowledge. Now the question is: what’s my obligation?  I could start having hearings but I don’t
know what burden I bear as an ISP.
Amer: elaborate more
on the notices. P2P?
Midgley: We get
notices styled as (c) but they’re really (a)—this is content that flowed through
our network but we have no way of verifying whether it was actually there since
we don’t store the content, as per 512(a)’s requirements. We can refer it to
our Honor Code department and allow a student to dispute.
Smith: you take them
as data indicative of infringement.
Midgley: we have, but
we don’t know what’s an adequate repeat infringer policy. We’re doing what we
think is reasonable and hoping we’re eligible for the safe harbor.
Amer: would you favor
more specificity?  One size fits all has
come in for criticism.
Midgley: 512(e) for
educational institutions is basically worthless; he’d like clarifications.
Isbell: does your
university either post a policy or get back to rightholders after a complaint?
Midgley: it’s posted
online and visible to students and public. We have Higher Education Opportunity
Act, which has © specific provisions and we send out an annual notice to every
member of the community making them aware of the policy etc. 
Band: libraries are
another kind of ISP—the place where many people get internet access is the
library. It’s very important to recognize that the standards for Verizon &
Cox are not the right standards necessarily for policy across the board.  We don’t see a need for statutory amendment;
we think the language as is provides enough flexibility with “appropriate
circumstances.”  Internet access has a
constitutional dimension but also a practical concern—30-40% of the population
has broadband only at the public library because there is a lot of poverty/lack
of coverage in America. Access to the internet goes beyond the 1A to the
ability to function in society. You can’t apply to Medicaid/meet work
requirements unless you file routinely online. That assumes you have access!
Smith: should
libraries educate about copyright?  You
have to repeatedly infringe to risk termination.
Band: libraries take
education seriously, particularly in higher ed. 
When we’re balancing issues on terminating internet access, it goes
beyond “the First Amendment” to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Isbell: Does LCA view
the fact that libraries provide the physical facilities to access the internet
as making them 512(a) ISPs?
Band: yes.
Greenberg: do you
still think ISPs are applying a higher standard than the law requires? Last
time, ISPs were saying that repeat infringer means adjudicated infringer and
Cox said otherwise.
Band: there’s lots of
different kinds of ISPs and they have different opinions. It seems to him that
an infringer is an infringer, not an alleged infringer, according to the plain
language of the statute, but courts do seem to be going in a different direction
and they have Article III authority.
Amer: What do you
want from us?
Band: Not congressional
intervention, as long as courts don’t start restricting “appropriate
circumstances” to allow libraries and universities to craft specific policies.
Amer: statute contemplates
that at some point repeat infringers will be terminated.  Take your point about the need for that to vary
depending on nature of ISP, especially given the importance of internet access,
but statute does seem to contemplate. Do any ISPs not need to comply?
Band: No, but what’s
appropriate for a public library/university may be different from what’s appropriate
from a large commercial provider.  [So
very tempted to try to get a notice sent to the CO’s public internet to make
that point, except that I don’t actually know where the kids are getting their
downloads these days.]
Castillo: Disagree
w/notion that it was difficult for Cox & Grande to implement a repeat
infringer policy. Cox had a policy & decided not to implement it; Grande
just decided to ignore notices.  It’s not
about difficulty levels.  ISP should
meaningfully & consistently enforce its own policy, whatever that policy is.  (Cox.) 
Grande: ISP should be keeping a log of repeat infringers to reasonably
implement a policy.  ISPs should prevent
terminated users from opening a new account using a different email address or
username. [This is one of the things where operating a website gives you a very
different perspective. It’s not that damn easy to prevent a terminated user from
resurfacing.  In fact it can be
impossible.]  512(i)(1) requires ISPs to
inform users/subscribers of a repeat infringer policy. The policy “anything
legal stays” doesn’t convey to users that there’s a potential for termination if
they repeatedly submit infringing content. Motherless was also wrong in
allowing personal judgment of operator, w/o a log, to satisfy the statute.  The Cox decision requiring meaningful and
consistent enforcement is more in line w/Congress’s intent to share
responsibility.
Midgley: Unlike Cox
or Grande, we do receive notices from subscriber that there is no infringement.
What do we do with conflicting info? Whose word are we supposed to take?  512 refers to system or network; we provide a
network and also provide a system, which is how the students access their
education.  Do we have to terminate both
of those? That’s an important distinction for us.  Nonprofits are notoriously risk averse.
Uncertainty makes it v. difficult for nonprofits to provide a robust
environment that we all depend on.
Donaldson: Cox & Motherless show judicial involvement in
appropriateness tailored to size of platform. This shows how it would be a bad
idea to write a single regulation for all. The size/resources available dictate
that repeat infringer policies have variation—even w/in Google’s 512(c)
products, of which there are many, we tailor policies to the purpose of the
platform.
Doroshow: Importance of repeat infringer policy: very
important, but just to make the point that there was a failure here, the rights
owners had to send millions of notice. Unreasonable up front burden on © owner.
Amer: how do you provide this information?
Doroshow: variable: we send DMCA notices to 512(a) and
512(c) providers.
Rasenberger: best practices could help for repeat infringer
policies and for red flag notice.
Moss: some possibility for CO to offer assistance to
rightsholders.
Smith: our public information office does answer 100,000s of
queries.
Kupferschmidt: Doesn’t disagree w/one size doesn’t fit all
for ISPs, but that’s also true for the creative community. Doesn’t work for the
notice system either. 
Q re human moderation.
Band: muddied the law—Mavrix went in a bad direction, Motherless
improved it. Treading in very dangerous area—the issue of moderation and what’s
appropriate goes way beyond copyright to what we want the internet to look
like.
Smith: 512(c) says ability to control.
Band: but you can’t condition eligibility on monitoring under
512(m): Congress in 1996 and 1998 wanted no monitoring requirement; encouraging
people to moderate content is good.
Amer: But you think Mavrix muddied things.
Band: yeah, there’s a spectrum. If you let most stuff
through, that doesn’t seem appropriate to call the ISP the publisher. If you
screen out 90%, then it starts to look more like a publisher.  Motherwell to some extent corrected the broad
suggestions of Mavrix but we don’t want to put platforms in the impossible
place where if they try to look at whether the stuff is appropriate they lose
the safe harbor.
Castillo: Motherless was “anything legal stays” screening.
The court found this still user-directed storage. The screening in LJ was
different – it was substantive.  [This is
a non sequitur.  Whether the content is
legal is substantive, it’s just smaller.] 
If the ISP is screening for substance but not for infringement, it may
lose the safe harbor.  We also disagree
w/512(m) interpretation—the intent was to protect privacy by preventing ISPs
from violating privacy laws when they were pursuing efforts to address
infringement, not to keep them from having any obligation to monitor.
Greenberg: Does that mean if you’re screening for child porn
and snuff films, do they lose safe harbor? If not, what do you mean?
Castillo: screening for illegal content was what Congress
could not have meant to discourage. If you’re screening for illegal content including
© infringement they shouldn’t lose their safe harbor.
Greenberg: but what if you’re only screening for porn/snuff
[not all of which is illegal]?
Castillo: that’s a closer question. 
Carlisle: to get songs heard, I put my songs on Reverb Nation.
I had to warrant that my songs were noninfringing.  A lot of problems w/red flag knowledge could
be solved w/looking at whether user claims to be the owner. [I wonder how many
websites Carlisle thinks don’t have this in their TOS already.]
Amer: doesn’t Google require people to affirm they have the
right to upload?
Donaldson: yes, it does.
Strong: what happens when people use ContentID—how do you
connect copyright owner and alleged infringer to take their dispute
offline? 
Donaldson: ContentID resolves 98% of disputes on YT;
Copyright Match allows smaller creators to find matches and file takedown
notices.  400,000 smaller creators;
continuing to expand eligibility. We’ve seen good results. Beyonce songs: a
demonstration that the label wants the songs on the platforms. They’re licensed
under ContentID. If Beyonce monetizes a fan upload, we’re happy to help with
that.
Smith: is it clear Beyonce opted to leave that up?
Donaldson: not easy for public to find out, but we have 1000
deals w/music groups, and the vast majority is licensed. There is a huge music
industry problem w/incomplete data: labels, collecting societies, etc. can’t or
won’t tell you the list of © they represent.
Levy: Content ID and Match rely on representative lists,
which is fine for publishers w/direct arrangements w/YT, which our independent
publishers/songwriters don’t have, so they can’t submit a representative list.
Donaldson: Content Match/ID doesn’t rely on a representative
list, but on ingesting the music itself.
Amer: Individual creators complained that Content ID wasn’t
available to them. Has that changed? [As I recall, G’s position was that it
wasn’t true then.]
Donaldson: growth of 3d party aggregators; Copyright Match
as better tailored to small creators.
Amer: why not Content ID?
Donaldson: it’s inordinately powerful & complicated.
Allows partners to specify threshold amounts they’re willing to allow use.  Even from our partners, we’ve seen a user who
isn’t experienced take down or wrongly monetize a broad swath.
Q: could you take it all down through Content ID instead of
monetizing?
Donaldson: yes.
Doroshow: if you screen for illegal content but not ©
infringement, what is the rule? Our position is that if the ability to screen is
there, then you have the obligation to do so. [Sigh.]  The availability of these tools exists—there are
other solutions than Content ID.
Greenberg: last time we did the Roundtable, you said $60
million investment in Content ID; now $100 million.  Is that right?
Donaldson: it was more than 60 million; he thinks that’s
accurate. 
Greenberg: he’s sure more has been developed [though we have
nothing specific on that, but ok], but what else has changed?
Donaldson: Content ID is not static; subject of major ongoing
investment.  $40 million over 3 years
seems like a reasonable number to him. Are they STMs?  No, not under the statute. They’re not in widespread
use. 
Hudson: Dealing w/long tail—small creators, nondigital
content—filtering is just not going to be comprehensive. So now how much
filtering will be enough? We’re moving the question but the uncertainty still
remains. That’s why flexibility of the current regime needs to be taken into
account. Changing to add a filtering requirement won’t solve the problem.
Amer: how do you respond to the argument that you could
filter entire works?  Why couldn’t filtering
tech capture full works?
Hudson: what if the full work is a quilt?  You’re thinking about digital content, but a
lot of the content shared/discussed isn’t digital. The picture may be digital,
but not the content. Inordinately complex once you get beyond a full copy of a
movie or an audio work, where tech work has been done. The point is that there’s
a huge long tail that is significant in volume and that the tech doesn’t work
on.
Greenberg: full image of a movie poster on a t-shirt—could it
be screened out?
Hudson: it depends on the tech. There are also issues with
things that are old and things that are new. 
A vintage T-shirt or poster; we’re not in a position to know what’s
correct.  [Also see 113(c) protecting use
of images incorporated into useful articles.] 
We don’t handle goods, don’t do drop shipping, don’t handle content—don’t
think Zazzle is relevant. We do have
repeat infringer/counterfeiting policies.
Kupferschmidt: filtering: perfect shouldn’t be enemy of
good. There’s a middle ground. There can be monitoring that can be done in a
way that takes into account different concerns & types of examples.  Full movie that isn’t licensed to anyone: if
you notify a platform that shouldn’t be up, that should never require a
takedown again [wants notice and staydown, but this time without any messy
congressional intervention].  Photo ID:
why don’t we ask the user whether they consider this fair use if they’re trying
to upload a photo with a watermark.  Sites
use CAPTCHA so they could ask you this.  [I
wonder how awesome he’d find this if applied to every post he made on FB.]
Band: Repositories may want some degree of moderation to
make sure they’re getting the right content. Should not lose your 512 safe
harbor for checking whether the content is appropriate for the site—SSRN for example
checks to see if it’s basically an academic paper. 
Amer: that sounds like volitional conduct.  [I don’t think he is familiar with
SSRN.]  If I were just to email you some
materials, and you post 100% of them, there’s an argument that you’re the one
who says yes or no. 
Band: 512(c) purposes: that’s at the direction of the
user.  [If I pull the string on the bus
for my stop and the bus driver opens the doors, I would say that’s still done
at my direction, even if the bus driver needed to push the button to open the
doors.]  Very different from traditional
publishing model.  They’re not choosing 1
out of 100 or 1 out of 1000. 
Rasenberger: Terms of service aren’t enough for affirming
that you have the right to post. Whenever you upload to any site, you should
have to say you own it, you licensed it, or you believe it’s fair use.  [Again, I encourage her to apply this to her
own internet use—and by the way, since we’re talking all 512 here, we’re
talking about her emails too.]
512 is really ineffective against bad actors.  [So we should break it for the good actors.]  ebookbike: founded Pirate Party in Canada,
principal members of Copyism religion—the sacrament is copying is a sacred duty.
Hides behind 512.  To upload content you
have to become a member, and most members are part of/related to the Piracy
Party.  Instructed on how to buy ebook,
strip out DRM, upload it, then return it. We’ve sent notices to the site, the
server provider [it switched servers], and to Google.  Can’t do anything but litigate, and
litigation costs too much. [It really sounds like 512 is not the problem.  Suppose there were an EU style law—you would
still have to litigate against his defiance.]
Isbell: do we really think Congress intended to cover those
sites?
Rasenberger: of course not, but Viacom/Youtube and Veoh make
it possible for the bad actors to be protected. It’s possible that we can win a
lawsuit, but that’s expensive.
Isbell: but is the answer to get rid of 512 for everyone?
Rasenberger: Best practices; Congress should clarify red
flag is not just knowledge of a specific infringing item at a specific location—knowledge
that your site is a place for piracy should take you out of 512. You should be
able to win that on summary judgment.
Amer: 512(f)?
Moss: Filters aren’t working the way people say: EU parliamentarian
had her own content taken down as infringing even though it was a public
speech. 

Levy: Lenz requires us to consider fair use before sending a takedown but doesn’t
say what that means.  A timebomb for
small publishers/ songwriters who may have massive amounts of infringing examples
out on the internet, to engage in a 4 point analysis before sending each notice
is very expensive.
Smith: do you interpret that case as imposing one size fits
all standard or does it matter who the © owner is?
Levy: the ruling doesn’t help us.
Greenberg: automation in making assessment? We heard some
sense that there’s room for automation.
Hudson: as intermediaries, we don’t have access to the
information that the users or the senders have. 
That’s why 512(f) enforceability is important for platforms to enable
users to express their own creative content while protecting other © owners.
Carlisle: for small creators, independent musicians, Lenz is
good news/bad news. Fair use is incredibly complex, and it’s burdensome to do
that analysis before sending a takedown when sophisticated companies profess
they have no idea whether something is red flag.  It’s easier to figure out something is
infringing than it is fair use.  [§107
says a fair use is not an infringement of copyright.]
Amer: isn’t that the premise of the statute, that the burden
is on the © owner to send the notice?
Carlisle: yes, and that’s unfair to make them monitor the entire
internet.
Smith: 512(f): if it’s complicated, then you shouldn’t have
a problem with an honest mistake.
Carlisle: material misrepresentation/ultimate standard is
not clear.  Lenz court struggled w/whether
Universal, a very sophisticated actor, was misrepresenting.
Smith: but for the little guy, isn’t “knowingly” very
helpful?
Carlisle: yes, but the creative person may know something
about copyright—musicians can get very aggressive about asserting © and
sometimes they’re right and sometimes they’re wrong. A lot of musicians hear
any similarity as infringement.
Castillo: takedowns of legal content by filtering: for those
cases we have the counternotice system that is working. [Citation needed.] That’s
not a reason to avoid filtering. [Also, filtering doesn’t actually give you
access to counternotice as currently set up.]
Band: Courts are very good at figuring out who’s a good guy
and who’s a bad guy; they tend to find ways to hold bad guys liable.
Rightsholders aren’t always as careful as they should be in selecting defendants
or misperceive who’s the bad guy (Google, HathiTrust).
Rasenbergers: good actors [with lots of money] can keep
pirate books off their sites. Amazon is pretty successful at keeping pirate
copies off their sites.

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U.S. Copyright Office, Section 512 Study Roundtable

Opening Remarks
Karyn A. Temple, Register of Copyrights and Director, U.S.
Copyright Office
Nat’l and int’l changes since 2016 roundtable—looking for
updates.  [Congrats on her first official
event as Register!]  Tale of two cities:
very different perspectives on how DMCA is working/not working—have those perspectives
changed on the voluntary or caselaw or int’l side? 
CO: Regan Smith, general counsel
Brad Greenberg
Kevin Amer
Kimberly Isbell
Maria Strong
SESSION 1: Domestic Developments          
Erich C. Carey National Music Publishers’ Association: BMG
v. Cox is important: opportunity for successful importance of plain language
where service enabled repeat infringement on massive scale. But music community
hasn’t changed its mind about DMCA: that was an extreme situation with millions
of notices sent and $8 million in fees. Not feasible for enforcement—heavy burden
for major publishers and individual creators. Enforcement system is gamed to
confuse notice senders.  Rigged system.
DMCA was supposed to help development of fledgling internet; service providers
and © owners would cooperate to deal w/infringement. Has helped to create some
of most powerful companies, but onus still on © owners to police. Building has
been built; time for the scaffolding to come down. Look internationally.
Ken Hatfield Artist Rights Caucus of Local 802 of the
American Federation of Musicians: Unfair loophole that allows profit from mass
infringement. Litigation alone won’t solve the problems with the safe harbors.
At odds with Congressional intent: neither active cooperation w/platforms nor
STMs have materialized. Reform is needed to restore rights/livelihood of
musicians.
Mike Lemon Internet Association: over 40 of the world’s
leading companies.  DMCA works in encouraging
creation and dissemination. 
Mickey Osterreicher National Press Photographers Association:
recent study estimates that more than 2.5 billion works are stolen every day,
23% in the US. A takedown notice is the only alternative photographers have.
But notices are encumbered by Lenz fair use considerations [the horror],
counterclaims, and counterclaim nightmares. New EU obligations for OSPs should
inform our conversations.
Jennifer Pariser Motion Picture Association of America: if
you were wondering if anything has changed in 2 years, these intros let you
know. Cases in the last few years about repeat infringers are promising but
infringement continues to devastate the industry. [See The
Sky Is Rising
for some actual numbers.]  Takedowns
have marched on w/o red flag notice or representative lists.
Meredith Rose Public Knowledge: vast and delicately balanced
body of copyright law; 512 is just a part. We must reckon w/broadband, 512, and
SCt’s Packingham decision recognizing a 1A interest in being able to speak and
be spoken to online. 50 million Americans have only one broadband provider—accusations
shouldn’t be enough to cut them off of access. That affects knowledge standard
for secondary liability.
Aws Shemmeri ImageRights International, Inc.: LiveJournal
decision is a step in the right direction—scrutinize relationships ISPs have w/user
communities. Interactive/curated relationship w/users benefits them, leaving
out content generators. There’s still a circuit split and so case law alone won’t
resolve it.
Rasty Turek Pex: Technical challenges: rightsholders bear
the cost of takedowns. Even if there’s a tech solution, platforms push against
active measurements like crawling to ID content. As such, there’s a disbalance.
Platforms have to be more accountable.
Rebecca L. Tushnet, Organization for Transformative Works: The
case law tells us the same thing as the UC Berkeley
study of takedown practices
: There are many successful models out there,
and even very big sites like ours with very active creators and millions of
works can receive very few legitimate takedowns. Amazon’s Kindle Worlds, for
example, mostly receives anticompetitive takedowns from competing writers [reflecting
the difficulty of fighting back at the individual level, only one 512(f) case
of which I’m aware, Quill
Ink
, has been brought based on a Kindle Worlds takedown].  Generally, 512 and its implementation by
different platforms have encouraged an explosion of expression; by contrast,
rules written as if YouTube is the model would crush the alternatives and ensure
there was only YouTube.  
[citation: Testimony of Stephen Worth, United States
Copyright Office Section 512 Study, Public Roundtable, May 13, 2016, at 248,
http://bit.ly/2IkiER5
(“[W]ith Kindle Direct publishing, authors routinely try to climb to the top
spot in their category … by issuing bogus notices against higher ranking
titles. And this for us actually accounts for more than half of the takedown
notices that we receive.”).]
[AO3 is the 316th most popular US website,
according to Alexa.]
Brian Willen   Wilson
Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati: DMCA works and continues to work. Basic bargain
is the right one. Fosters cooperation: real obligations on platforms but main
burden is on © owners who have the most knowledge of their works and benefit
from them.  Motherless case in 9th
Circuit: example of getting it right. Real sites that are home to original
works thrive, while piratical sites mainly encouraging/inducing infringement
have faced consequences.
Mr. Winterton NetChoice: DMCA applies obligations to
least-cost avoider.  Don’t have to be
aware of all © content; a cottage industry of monitoring services helps with
this.  512 has empowered platforms for
artists and all Americans to express themselves. W/o 512 we would get lock in for
major services.  Europe’s Art. 13: must
know every piece of © content in existence. Protect American innovators,
artists and platforms: lead in opposing these efforts.  US should work to incorporate 512 in trade
agreements to protect free speech and creativity.
Smith: Pariser mentioned repeat infringer. Are Cox &
Grande & Motherless right?
Pariser: the first two were correctly decided as far as they
went for repeat infringers.  Contributory
liability/jury instruction part of Cox they have an issue w/.  Why are these bright spots? B/c a court said
the DMCA means what it says, and that hasn’t happened before b/c courts have
not required a representative list or applied red flag notice. Repeat infringer
= must act on multiple notices for the same user, ending in terminations.  Motherless: mixed bag.  We take issue w/ the notion that any kind of
policy that a service can dream up is ok—written, unwritten [this was a one-man
ISP, by the way]—most troubling part is that the operator doesn’t need to keep
track of the notices.  He used his
memory.  The good news is that he
actually terminated 2000 individuals. 
RT: Motherless is important b/c it deals w/ the incredible
variety of sites out there. This is a one-man shop; if he has a server failure
& loses all his records, he shouldn’t lose all DMCA cases in the
future.  Flexibility in what is required is
important.  Even big sites like AO3
receive very few DMCA notices—there is a big variety of sites out there and not
just in the small/long tail segment of the market.
Smith: is there a bare minimum on a repeat infringer policy?
Willen: the courts have focused on strikes; that creates a
clustering. For repeat infringer policies, you want to get bad users off the
site but you also want to educate users who are fans v. pirates. Flexible
policies can use first/even second strike as vehicle for educating users.  You can also be attentive to consequences of
loss of broadband v. loss of access to a site.
Carey: Industry perspective: Uphill battle getting these
cases off the ground to reverse engineer an ISP’s own infringer policy.
Requires massive discovery and tech knowledge. 
[Note how this implicitly treats a subset of ISPs as the full set of
those who have and need DMCA policies: even if it’s true that the cases that
get to discovery are complicated—in significant part because small sites and
even big ones like Veoh buckle under litigation costs—that doesn’t mean that he’s
diagnosed a problem with the structure of 512 or that an alternative would be
better for the system.] You’re lucky to be able to litigate.
Smith: so should the burden be on the © owner?
Carey: No. 
Smith: does the newer case law shift the burden on repeat
infringers?
Carey: no, just a proper balance according to what the
statute intended. If these circumstances (Cox and Grande) weren’t failure to
enforce repeat infringer policies, nothing would be. 
Hatfield: IANAL, but having different standards for an ISP
individually run sounds reasonable, but not if it’s applied to the giants. [Note
that a small ISP can have a big footprint, like our all-volunteer site.] Solutions
should be focused on upload filters—make sure all music has IRC codes.  Cloudflare gives complete anonymity to users.
Cost of litigation–$1500 to $3000 for a takedown, while litigation is up to $2
million. It’s virtually impossible for musicians to do it. Prime earning time
for new music is 18 months, but cases are slower than that.  512 implemented/interpreted in ways that
create fertile ground for dragging cases out. 
[Of course all of that precedent came from P-favorable rulings that made
it impossible to resolve these cases early.]
Rose: 512 applies to broadband and platforms, and those have
very different stakes.  We don’t often
say that ISPs are our friends at PK, but it’s US policy to increase access to
internet.  To eject someone from their
only broadband network is a very serious issue, and Packingham recognizes the
profound First Amendment interest just in access to social media.
Amer: 512(a) and (c) have differences. Pre-Cox, we heard
from 512(a) ISPs that their practice was to reject notices under (c); Cox obviously
casts some doubt on that practice. Does anyone have a sense of which practices
have changed in light of Cox/other cases?
[Nobody knows.] Carey says there’s general sense that
practices have changed, and Charter case is currently being litigated/litigation
against others is ongoing. Is it effective means of enforcement/repeat
infringer policies? Still figuring this out.
Isbell: Rose says Packingham indicates 1A interest in
access. Do you see terminations pursuant to a repeat infringer policy as being
state action?
Rose: not state action directly. But you must in order to
avail yourself of a safe harbor. As a practical matter it becomes equivalent
b/c the potential damages are so big. There’s some gradation.
Greenberg: voluntary measures negotiated in the shadow of 512?
Rose: policy concerns there. 
Packingham: sex offender registry, and still not good enough to cut him
off of social media access entirely.
RT: NYT v. Sullivan: the scope of the rights the state
enables have 1A implications b/c the judiciary is a state actor.
Pariser: an appropriate repeat infringer policy takes
account of the statutory command that termination should be in “appropriate”
circumstances—you can take into account the nature of the service. Policies can
vary provided that they are actual policies. 
First Amendment: repeat infringer obligation doesn’t implicate 1A
concerns b/c there is no state action; unlike in Packingham, though there are
some rural areas w/a single provider [50 million people!], in general termination
from one ISP isn’t a death knell.
Smith: LJ v. Mavrix case. 
Shemmeri: Prior to that appeal, there wasn’t a lot of
success against non-pirate-oriented ISPs. This decision, on the heels of BWP
where some users were deemed independent contractors—this case rightly held
that editorial posts/staff uploading their own material have an intricate
relationship w/users in which they’re curating the content, seeing that it’s
favorable/profitable on their end.  Sites
are profiting from the content and there is some review, so it’s natural not to
give 512 protections. [Note collapse of vicarious and contributory liability: exactly
the problem, where you get one from column A and one from column B and that’s
enough.]
Willen: any pre-upload moderation should not take you out of
512(c): Motherless helpfully clarified that pre-upload review and moderation to
look for illegal material, material that doesn’t fit w/in the service. 
Smith: would it make a difference if they screened only for
cute cat videos/banned only cute cat videos?
Willen: it shouldn’t. We know from 230 that Congress wanted
and encouraged OSPs to remove inappropriate content.  The idea that services that are doing exactly
what 230 encourages should lose 512 protection isn’t good for society, for users,
for copyright owners.
Amer: Mavrix’s standard: if the ISP’s activities were narrowly
directed at enhancing accessibility of the posts, that’s still at the direction
of the users.  Is there any room for
curation w/in that standard?  Kicking out
cat videos.
Willen: there is and there has to be room for curation.  Viacom case: the use of related/suggested
videos. That’s a form of curation/moderation—you like this, you may like that.
More broadly, every service now does some form of “curation”—what we mean is
some effort to help users sort through a mass of UGC and find things they like.
The idea that you shouldn’t be able to do that and have safe harbor protection
means we get a bunch of junky, useless sites [the 230 point is really strong
here].
Amer: Scalia’s Aereo dissent: isn’t it an administrable rule
to say that if someone is choosing the content, that will ordinarily tip them
into direct infringement?
Willen: distinguishes LJ: people are submitting things but
they don’t go live. The ultimate decision about what is posted is made by the platform.  That degree of ex ante selection makes you a
traditional publisher.  That does start
to put pressure on 512(c). But there’s a fundamental distinction b/t that and
sites that essentially let people mostly put stuff up that they want and then
performs sorting operations after that. 
At the same time, those services are increasingly saying we don’t want
terrorist content, porn, etc. whether or not they’re “legal.” The idea that making
those kinds of selections jeopardizes safe harbor is very very troubling.
Isbell: reading 512 in a way that negates 230 doesn’t make
sense. But Congress explicitly carved out IP from 230—so shouldn’t the approach
be different?
Willen: 230 is relevant even though it’s not applicable to
IP b/c it clearly says Congress gave ISPs a right to/encouraged them to remove
content b/c they find it objectionable whether or not it’s legal. 
Smith: can you reconcile that w/UMG’s statements about
active involvement in content selection?
Willen: there’s language in the cases that goes both ways,
but no case of which he’s aware holds that by making decisions about what’s
good/bad content you fall outside of 512(c). 
That interpretation is inconsistent w/incentives Congress tried to
provide in 230 and w/public policy generally. What kind of internet do we want?
Pariser: Objects to the notion that “a moderator curating
content implies no safe harbor” is bad for content.  Now all these sites that would otherwise have
been filtering content stop doing it—that’s not true! The reality is that
nobody is curating for copyright at this moment. They’re picking and choosing
content that they like & do not like for reasons of their own.  Porn/violence/low quality files, but
infringing content can stay until there’s a takedown notice. The notion that a
service provider would lose safe harbor seems entirely right if they
demonstrate that it is going into the content that is being supplied by users
& picking & choosing among those files, it should have the obligation
to go after infringing files.
Smith: where would you draw the line? Pre-posting or
post-posting?
Pariser: no distinction. If you choose to curate, that is
the moment you need to filter for infringing content. Disagree that you end up
w/ a lot of junky sites; you end up with a lot of sites w/filters that are
inexpensive. 
There is a continuum.
Amer: did Motherless get it right?  It would create bad incentives to say that a
site that decides to screen out the worst content loses the safe harbor. The
court distinguished Mavrix, which is much more focused on choosing the content.
Pariser: makes perfect sense given 512. Part of our position
is that the court started veering off the correct interpretation of 512(c) and
it should always have been the case that if a site demonstrates that it can control
its content, it should be filtering. Given that the law didn’t develop that
way, Motherless makes sense to distinguish b/t truly curated and more
pedestrian filtering for child porn.
Greenberg: say we have a new 512. Your position is filter
for anything = must filter for © too?
Pariser: demonstrates the ability of the site to filter.
Lemon: content moderation is a very difficult subject. Vast
majority of content moderation is fueled by users flagging objectionable
content, which is largely the way the DMCA also works. Platform’s resources may
be enough to give it proactive content moderation ability, but the idea that
they can take a child porn hash and that using it would thereby trigger a ©
filtering requirement is really problematic. 
If you can filter, then you must—then we have to fight over “can.”
Smith: Zazzle case: putting it on a physical product. Is
that different?  Line at a physical product?
Lemon: there are different legal implications if you
proactively take a © work and market it on a physical product.
Smith: is there a difference b/t that and marketing for
eyeballs?
Lemon: complicated—depends on volition/human involvement in
making decisions. Much of what platforms do is automated. Those processes don’t
always make the right/best calls; they’re not human, and humans also error. That’s
why we have a back and forth process with user, platform, and © claimant. We
need to take into account the sheer number of things posted—reddit, between 2016/2018,
had 625% increase in takedown notices. 
It’s a very quick ramp-up.
Greenberg: what about having thresholds for size/staff?
Lemon: first, companies ramp up very quickly.  GDPR example: they get big quickly. All the
metrics are terrible.  Monthly users:
varies month to month.  More than 2
moderators: you’ll never hire the 3d. 
Winterton: Filters are not inexpensive. We were told that
internet sales tax programs would be cheap. That’s not true when you rely on it
for your business/have to integrate it into the rest of your systems. Also true
of filters. Larger platforms can and do make different efforts. 
Hatfield: the people is monetizing the content, not whether
it goes up or not.  YouTube has different
rules for different artists.  STMs: once
available, company can’t block—if Google has developed the technology, it can’t
be that expensive to implement it.
Carey: software costs are prohibitive to © owners, and we’re
also deprived of ability to send representative list, red flag is read out of
the statute, so we have to go URL by URL for each piece of content. 
Osterreicher: NMPA encourage musicians to put code in; we
encourage photographers to watermark; you should be able to recognize a watermark
on an image.
Smith: would a platform have an obligation to screen for
watermarks?
Osterreicher: at a minimum, yes.  Metadata often stripped out, but watermarks
are hard to do/should be obvious to anyone that someone owns it and who that
someone is.
Smith: are you encouraged about standards for photography?
Osterreicher: the tech is getting there, and hopefully will
not be able to separate the info.
Greenberg: how would the ISP know whether the use was
licensed? If it was my wedding, how would they know it was ok for me to upload
my wedding photos?
Osterreicher: that’s a problem, but the service should be
able to recognize there was a watermark.
RT: Specific child porn hash values from known images are
different from finding a watermark. New Zealand shooting gives us a tragic
example of how that generalized “ability” to filter has been vastly overstated.  If you want a law regulating Alphabet on
antitrust grounds and governing how YouTube can treat musicians, the Department
of Justice knows how to do that, but mandatory filtering is not the right legal
tool.  Our site will terminate users for
harassing other users and for engaging in commercial solicitation.  We get well under 10 DMCA notices per year
for millions of works.  We are not
curators; our users are curators.
Greenberg: a watermark as red flag?
RT: we don’t filter. So we wouldn’t see a watermark. And our
users might well put their own watermarks on their photos so that when their cosplay
pictures show up on Instagram they get the attribution—we shouldn’t have to go
to war against our users. And Google won’t sell us a filter.
[A dialogue on red flag knowledge.  I resisted the idea that you could get much guidance
from extreme examples, like harassthem.com/stolencelebritypics.com because that’s
not what most people are doing.  It may
be a very small set and hard to generalize.  And it’s natural that red flag knowledge is hard to generalize–for example, a full length movie on Dropbox is perfectly likely to be a legit backup of a purchased movie, which is what I do for my iTunes purchases because of bad past experiences.  A video that gets 10,000 hits in an hour might be a video of a recent police shooting.  It really depends on all the other facts & circumstances.]
Smith: has red flag knowledge been read out of the statute?
Lemon: no opinion.
Smith: if you can filter, should you filter?
Lemon: there’s a lot of collaborative work. Some of our
companies have won Oscars, Grammys, Golden Globes—our interests align in
important ways to figure out best practices. 
We don’t think our best practices should be the law for everyone b/c it
doesn’t make sense for different platforms.
Osterreicher: wedding photos—if you put a watermark on, and
it’s your image of someone else, there should be a standard that would trigger
further investigation.  [Can I make him
answer the angry user emails?] [And by the way, “find a watermark and an image
of a person” is a very different machine learning task than “match the hash value
for this entire image.”]
Turek: The technology is there: ContentID is not the state
of the art.  [He sells the
technology.]  There’s not much left—671 hours
of content uploaded to YT every minute, growing 100 hours a year.  Eventually, you have to find a way to deal
with it.  Once you engage in one kind of filtering,
you should be forced to look at the others. 
You can’t have innovation in isolation. 
Rights holders used nontechnical POV on measures, and picked the most obvious
ways, but you can’t get the state of the art w/o the backing from more than
rightsholders.
Willen: shade thrown at red flags is being thrown at Viacom.  Isn’t the specific/general distinction.  Subjective/objective is the line. Red flag:
the facts and circumstances would lead a reasonable person to find
infringement.  That’s not reading it out
of the statute.
Smith: what’s red flag w/o a notice?
Willen: every court that has looked at it has come to the same
conclusion: this is a narrow provision. It’s in the statute, it just doesn’t
happen very much. Legislative history: congresspeople said it means something
apparent from a brief and casual viewing. Subjective or objective knowledge
standard is in fact narrow—the main vehicle for removing content was never
meant to be unilateral ISP action, but cooperatively. And it reflects that
these determinations are very difficult, not like figuring out whether something
is child porn; requires knowledge that ISPs very rarely have. Having a
watermark doesn’t distinguish photos from others on the internet—[almost] every
photo on the internet has a © that belongs to someone, but that just starts the
inquiry.
Amer: what if a user has a username “PiratedSongs”: is that
even red flag knowledge because it’s not specific enough?
Willen: YT case has a huge factual record showing that a
number of clips like “leaked song” had actually been posted by © owners/their
agents as part of stealth/viral marketing. Concrete examples to show that some
video description is not a very good guide.
Smith: if the standard is objective, isn’t Stolen Sgt.
Pepper enough to investigate?
Willen: sure, if you find a full-length movie. But this
conversation isn’t about those examples, but rather about an attempt to say
that courts are getting it wrong when they say that red flag is narrow.  That view fundamentally ignores the reality
of what’s on these sites, almost all
of which is copyrighted.
Isbell: are you presupposing that YT doesn’t use its own
site?  If you type in Beyonce, a lot of
lyric videos, many of which aren’t put up by the record company.  [Isn’t that … covered by YT’s licenses?]  Pinterest uses a lot of images from other
sites.  Since I am likely to pin other
people’s sites and not my on why shouldn’t Pinterest know that?
Willen: YT is licensed at this point.  Some of these issues on bigger platforms have
been dealt with.  Pinterest generally (he
represents them): the other part of the equation is fair use.  Social bookmarking has a big fair use component.  Using thumbnails/versions can constitute fair
use.
Pariser: Goal keeps moving from content owners’ perspective.  Porn: the P says you should have known that
it was infringing b/c it was so well produced. 
Court disagrees. Court holds up professionally produced studio movie as
paradigmatic example of what would confer knowledge. But when a Marvel movie is
the subject, there’s some other reason it wouldn’t be sufficient notice, such
as lack of ID’ing a particular file.  YT
involved unlicensed, full length music videos for which the site didn’t get
specific URL notices. Have to understand that in the context of representative
list.  Zazzle: sent a catalog of photos
and the court said that wasn’t good notice.
Shammeri: we don’t discourage use of © notices in works.
ISPs w/human curation can retain red flag knowledge—celebrity/historical photos
where it’s obvious they don’t own © to an image in the 1970s or 80s.  That raises a red flag of very likely
infringing or not owned by the user. 
[Those are not the same things.]
RT: a brief note on repurposing sites: You don’t know what
your users will do.  Pinterest &
vaccine denial/political use of Instagram—be careful you don’t assume what
sites are for. 
Smith: but what about Isbell’s point that eventually you know?
RT: There are a bunch of different YouTubes.  [A better answer would be Mao’s purported
answer about the effects of the French Revolution: “too soon to tell.”  Instagram and Pinterest are still figuring
out what kind of sites they are, and having struggles with, e.g., political content and vaccine denial content, and the fact that Pinterest is a particular
kind of site for you doesn’t mean it’s the same site for anyone else.]
Representative list: we get a search string that’s
dynamically generated and looks different when we look at it. We get a claim
listing one photo that says the entire [X] fandom is infringing.  This is not one-sided as a problem.
Hatfield: ISRC codes are good.
Osterreicher: this is a tale of two takedowns. Plight of
individual creators.  [Including ours, BTW.]

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“more predictive, consistent, stable” is puffery, but misrepresentation of what credit score you’d get isn’t

Fair Isaac Corp. v. Trans Union, LLC, 2019 WL 1436018, No.
17-cv-8318 (N.D. Ill. Mar. 30, 2019)
FICO sued TransUnion for breach of contract, breach of good
faith and fair dealing, copyright infringement, conversion, and false
advertising. Since 1989, TransUnion, one of three major credit bureaus, has
been licensed to use FICO’s scoring algorithm to sell credit scores (FICO
Scores) to its customers. TransUnion also uses FICO’s software in applying the
algorithm to an individual’s credit data.
In 2015, FICO allegedly learned that TransUnion committed
several contractual infractions: underpaid royalties, copyright infringement
and conversion, and breach of several written agreements, as well as false
advertising related to VantageScore, a FICO-rival credit company created by
TransUnion, Experian, and Equifax. 
The breach of contract/copyright claims survived a motion to
dismiss. Conversion claims failed: it is well established that “Illinois courts
do not recognize an action for conversion of intangible rights.” Even if, as
FICO argued, its conversion claims were connected to “tangible” written code,
conversion as a cause of action requires “an absolute right to immediate
possession of the property” which TransUnion refused to return. But the
agreements at issue, as alleged, provided for TransUnion to use the software
and did not provide for their return at the termination of the parties’
agreement.
False advertising: VantageScore’s website contained
statements such as: “Getting a card? Run your credit check before the bank
does,” and “Buying a car? Kick the tires on your credit before the dealer
does.” The ads had links labeled “Show Me My Score [and] Report Now” that would
produce VantageScore in-house scores. FICO alleged that these statements
mislead reasonable customers to believe that they would be “obtaining the same
score [FICO Scores] that their lender would obtain and rely upon in deciding
whether to extend them credit.” Further, an ad claiming that VantageScore 3.0
“generates consumer credit scores that are more predictive, more consistent,
and more stable by using industry-leading analytics to parse credit files
differently than older, other models do” falsely implied that VantageScore
outperformed FICO scores.
TransUnion first pointed to Fair Isaac Corp. v. Experian
Information Solutions Inc., 645 F. Supp. 2d 734 (D. Minn. 2009), as mandating
issue preclusion. But though FICO alleged false advertising there, “the
difference in context, timing, and language of the advertisement distinguish
the issues.” For example, the statements at issue in Experian included: “Most lenders would view your creditworthiness
as very poor,” “Know where you stand no matter which credit bureau your lender
checks,” “the same type of score that lenders see,” and “Most lenders offer
their ‘good’ rates to consumers in this category.” Experian found that these statements did not imply “that an
appreciable number of lenders use the in-house scores of VantageScore in making
lending decisions.”
This case was different. 
In Experian, FICO claimed that
the prior statements falsely conveyed that many lenders use VantageScore’s
in-house scores, but here it argued that VantageScore’s ad implies that
consumers were actually getting FICO scores. Second, this case doesn’t involve
statements about a consumer’s specific score (poor/good/etc.). Nor did Experian “consider the internet
display’s effect in causing confusion between receiving FICO Scores as opposed
to VantageScore in-house credit scores.” No estoppel would apply.
That said, the superiority statements were puffery as a
matter of law. Claims that VantageScore’s model “generates consumer credit
scores that are more predictive, more consistent, and more stable by using
industry-leading analytics to parse credit files differently than older, other
models do” “are clearly overexaggerated marketing claims … One would expect
these types of subjective nonquantifiable statements to be posted on a
company’s website. That is the very purpose of advertisement.” [The very
purpose of ads is to puff?  Sigh. There’s
also an interesting contrast here to the lawyer advertising case I just wrote
about, where claims that a legal case would be simple/easy were not held to be
puffery.]

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“more predictive, consistent, stable” is puffery, but misrepresentation of what credit score you’d get isn’t

Fair Isaac Corp. v. Trans Union, LLC, 2019 WL 1436018, No.
17-cv-8318 (N.D. Ill. Mar. 30, 2019)
FICO sued TransUnion for breach of contract, breach of good
faith and fair dealing, copyright infringement, conversion, and false
advertising. Since 1989, TransUnion, one of three major credit bureaus, has
been licensed to use FICO’s scoring algorithm to sell credit scores (FICO
Scores) to its customers. TransUnion also uses FICO’s software in applying the
algorithm to an individual’s credit data.
In 2015, FICO allegedly learned that TransUnion committed
several contractual infractions: underpaid royalties, copyright infringement
and conversion, and breach of several written agreements, as well as false
advertising related to VantageScore, a FICO-rival credit company created by
TransUnion, Experian, and Equifax. 
The breach of contract/copyright claims survived a motion to
dismiss. Conversion claims failed: it is well established that “Illinois courts
do not recognize an action for conversion of intangible rights.” Even if, as
FICO argued, its conversion claims were connected to “tangible” written code,
conversion as a cause of action requires “an absolute right to immediate
possession of the property” which TransUnion refused to return. But the
agreements at issue, as alleged, provided for TransUnion to use the software
and did not provide for their return at the termination of the parties’
agreement.
False advertising: VantageScore’s website contained
statements such as: “Getting a card? Run your credit check before the bank
does,” and “Buying a car? Kick the tires on your credit before the dealer
does.” The ads had links labeled “Show Me My Score [and] Report Now” that would
produce VantageScore in-house scores. FICO alleged that these statements
mislead reasonable customers to believe that they would be “obtaining the same
score [FICO Scores] that their lender would obtain and rely upon in deciding
whether to extend them credit.” Further, an ad claiming that VantageScore 3.0
“generates consumer credit scores that are more predictive, more consistent,
and more stable by using industry-leading analytics to parse credit files
differently than older, other models do” falsely implied that VantageScore
outperformed FICO scores.
TransUnion first pointed to Fair Isaac Corp. v. Experian
Information Solutions Inc., 645 F. Supp. 2d 734 (D. Minn. 2009), as mandating
issue preclusion. But though FICO alleged false advertising there, “the
difference in context, timing, and language of the advertisement distinguish
the issues.” For example, the statements at issue in Experian included: “Most lenders would view your creditworthiness
as very poor,” “Know where you stand no matter which credit bureau your lender
checks,” “the same type of score that lenders see,” and “Most lenders offer
their ‘good’ rates to consumers in this category.” Experian found that these statements did not imply “that an
appreciable number of lenders use the in-house scores of VantageScore in making
lending decisions.”
This case was different. 
In Experian, FICO claimed that
the prior statements falsely conveyed that many lenders use VantageScore’s
in-house scores, but here it argued that VantageScore’s ad implies that
consumers were actually getting FICO scores. Second, this case doesn’t involve
statements about a consumer’s specific score (poor/good/etc.). Nor did Experian “consider the internet
display’s effect in causing confusion between receiving FICO Scores as opposed
to VantageScore in-house credit scores.” No estoppel would apply.
That said, the superiority statements were puffery as a
matter of law. Claims that VantageScore’s model “generates consumer credit
scores that are more predictive, more consistent, and more stable by using
industry-leading analytics to parse credit files differently than older, other
models do” “are clearly overexaggerated marketing claims … One would expect
these types of subjective nonquantifiable statements to be posted on a
company’s website. That is the very purpose of advertisement.” [The very
purpose of ads is to puff?  Sigh. There’s
also an interesting contrast here to the lawyer advertising case I just wrote
about, where claims that a legal case would be simple/easy were not held to be
puffery.]

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Lawyer’s solicitation of litigation against timeshare company could violate Lanham Act

Diamond Resorts International, Inc. v. Aaronson, — F.
Supp. 3d —-, 2019 WL 1445181, No. 17-cv-1394-Orl-37DCI (M.D. Fla. Mar. 5,
2019)
With all the discussion about “opening up the libel laws,”
it’s notable that Lexmark has accomplished
very much the same thing for commercial disparagement.  This case is one of a nontrivial number of
timeshare resorts suing law firms for suggesting to timeshare clients that
they can get out of their financial obligations, and it proceeds.  To me, this case illustrates the rule
“professional speech that would be an opinion if said by a nonexpert can be a falsifiable
fact claim if said by an expert.”  
Anyway, Diamond sued Aaronson & his law firm for ads on
the firm’s website and for Aaronson’s representation of clients who are or were
Diamond members (the latter of which sure sounds like a Noerr-Pennington issue, but ok), and the court allows the claims to
proceed.
Diamond comprises Las Vegas-based timeshare developers
managing over 420 membership resorts worldwide. It alleged that defendants led
Diamond members to believe they could get out of their contracts. The
members ceased payments, and Diamond allegedly faced
baseless arbitration proceedings.
One of the challenged website ads once read:
Timeshare ownership often feels
like entrapment. How do we know this? Because people tell us. Their stories are
remarkably consistent.
….
But reciting this disturbing series
of events is not going to help legally. Why? Because it’s your word against
there’s [sic]. Plus, there are a thousand disclaimers and waivers in those
closing documents, enough to absolve the developer of almost anything.
But that’s not to say that you
don’t have any leverage, any cards to play. At the Aaronson Firm, we focus on
other ways to release your obligation. One in particular: Maintenance. Your
developer has a fiduciary duty to manage the resorts in your best interest.
Chances are, they’re in breach of that duty, in ways that are very obvious and
easy to prove.
This is where the developer is most
vulnerable. This is where your leverage is. And you owe it to yourself to hire
experienced, competent counsel. At the Aaronson Firm, we have over forty years
of combined legal experience. And we are willing to sue, if necessary, in the
interest of getting you released.
So call us free of charge to
discuss your situation, please. Your legal problems are not insurmountable.
There were changes to this ad and other pages, but you get
the gist. The advertisements “generally espouse Defendants’ view of common
practices of the timeshare industry as a whole.” [And it’s hard to imagine that
a court assessing non-lawyer advertising would find them falsifiable as to a
particular plaintiff.] Other ads, however, discuss Diamond specifically, such
as a blog post called “Timeshare Traps”:
Diamond Resorts International,
Inc., is an incredibly profitable company…. And they
appear willing to stop at nothing to maintain this profitability.
… [I]t is inclined to
acquire existing facilities from previous developers, many of which were set up
on the deed system. In some cases, these resorts were substantially sold out to
deeded owners. Undeterred, Diamond has then endeavored to ‘revoke’ the deeds, a
unilateral act utterly without legal authority, and impose a ‘points’ system
conferring greater access based upon amount of points purchased…. This practice
is incredibly unfair to owners of existing interests in these resorts, deeded
or otherwise.
So don’t be too surprised if, next
time you try to book your vacation, you are told that you have insufficient
points to access any of the accommodations, and that you’ll have to buy more.
If you are disappointed with your
Diamond timeshare, please don’t hesitate to call us concerning your legal
options, including rescission of the contract, free of charge.
There was also a specific “Diamond Resorts Timeshare Cancellation”
page in a similar vein, and a blog post, “Timeshare Conflict of Interest”
arguing that Diamond had a conflict and unlawfully controlled the boards of condos
it managed.
In over 5 years, the homepage had 69,027 visits, the “How It
Works” page 12,923 visits, and the “Diamond Resorts Timeshare Cancellation”
page 3,330 visits. About 258 Diamond timeshare owners have retained defendants
to cancel their Timeshare Contracts, and almost half of those have delinquent
Diamond accounts based on their failure to pay money owed under their Timeshare
Contracts, over $ 4.5 million in total. Defendants have started over thirty
arbitrations against Diamond asserting claims for breach of fiduciary duty,
conflicts of interest, and mishandling and misappropriation of maintenance fees,
but none have provided relief on those claims, and the arbitrator allegedly found
that the claims lacked good faith in multiple instances. In some arbitrations,
the arbitrator ruled in Diamond’s favor on counterclaims for breach of the
Timeshare Contracts.
The court highlighted two stories (which to me sound like
clients taken advantage of twice): Hardisty bought Diamond timeshare points twice,
but then had second thoughts because she could not afford the payments and felt
she had been lied to by Diamond. When she found Aaronson through the website,
Aaronson sent a demand letter to Diamond and began arbitration proceedings
against Diamond. But Hardisty indicated that the claims Aaronson filed did not
reflect “her perception of Diamond’s wrongdoing.” She found some facts asserted
to be untrue, and she didn’t even know what some of the claims meant. None of
the asserted claims seemed “obvious” or “easy to prove.” When she asked about
continuing to pay Diamond, Aaronson told her she “could probably stop paying
them,” so she did. Aaronson then terminated his representation before the
arbitration hearing took place.
The Feldmans also bought Diamond timeshare points twice, but
wanted to terminate after Diamond increased their maintenance fees. They too
found Aaronson online as the only attorney they could find. Although he made no
guarantee about the outcome, according to Mr. Feldman, “[h]e was pretty
certain” he could deliver. Aaronson told Mr. Feldman that “it would not be to
[his] benefit to make any more payments.” Aaronson asserted almost identical claims
here, but the statement contained information Mr. Feldman did not understand
and other information he did not find accurate or know about. Aaronson then
represented the Feldmans during an arbitration hearing against Diamond, where
Mr. Feldman testified about the misrepresentations made by the Diamond
salespeople, but didn’t prevail. “Feldman felt that the claims raised by Mr.
Aaronson—based on maintenance fees, breaches of fiduciary duty, and conflicts
of interest—were not obvious and easy to prove.”
Lanham Act claims: The court rejected the term “standing”
for the Lexmark inquiry, even though
there’s no other good shorthand. 
Diamond’s asserted injuries fell within the Lanham Act’s zone of
interests (to reputation or sales). Even though Diamond had dropped its claim
for money damages for injury to reputation, it still claimed some damage
thereto, and a reasonable jury could find the targeted blog posts to have harmed
its reputation; and unpaid accounts receivable qualify as “lost sales” for
these purposes. (Both of these results seem quite sensible to me.)
Falsity/misleadingness: The challenged ads claimed “that
timeshare developers are vulnerable and exposed legally, such as by breaching
fiduciary duties in handling maintenance of timeshare properties and
perpetuating conflicts of interest” and “that, as a result, there are obvious
and provable ways for individuals to get out of their Timeshare Contracts.” They
also attacked Diamond specifically, questioning the legality of its points
system and stating that it perpetuated an unlawful conflict of interest.
The court found genuine issues of fact both on falsity or
misleadingness, “in part because the record belies Defendants’ claimed messages
that vulnerabilities in the Timeshare Contracts exist that are obvious and easy
to prove due to timeshare developers’ practices.” Defendants asserted the
specific “easily provable” claims identified in the ads against Diamond in over
thirty cases—but lost on those claims every time.  Moreover, identifying select phrases as
opinion wasn’t enough given the whole ad context.  “Although Defendants use equivocal phrases
about timeshare developers’ potential unlawful conduct such as ‘chances are’
and ‘may well be,’ the Subject Advertisements also contain more direct,
unequivocal statements about the same conduct—even calling on readers to
respond.”  [Side note: imagine if we
treated disclosures about the quality of scientific evidence for supplement
claims this way—which is probably the right way to treat such disclosures!]
Each challenged ad conveyed that there was a factual basis for the ads, not
just opinion.
The court emphasized that
these advertisements are authored
by a lawyer and appear on his law firm’s website—a firm dedicated to timeshare
cancellation. They also directly accuse Diamond and other timeshare developers
of committing fraud, perpetuating conflicts of interests, breaching fiduciary
duties, and other unlawful activity. In them, Defendants represent themselves
as “experienced, competent counsel” and contend there are “obvious” and “easy
to prove” claims that can be raised against timeshare developers. And finally,
the Subject Advertisements call on readers to contact Defendants immediately
for a free consultation, with an assurance that their legal problems are not
insurmountable. Against this backdrop, the Court cannot find that no genuine
issues of material fact exist on the false and misleading nature of the Subject
Advertisements.
Deceptiveness: Diamond submitted survey evidence of
deception that was admissible; even without the survey, there was a triable
issue on literal falsity.  (Sadly, I
can’t find the control in the record.  It
seems to have been a “letter” about the industry generally, and it doesn’t seem
to have said much negative. 
Interestingly, “In response to the question about whether, based on a
reading of the material they saw, respondents believed that time share owners
must be permitted to cancel their contracts if they choose to …, 61% of the
respondents who saw one of the Aaronson Web pages answered in the affirmative
compared to 50% who saw the control letter.” 
The control itself appears to have been deceptive if that’s a false
statement—or consumers may be relying on their own sense of equity about
cancellation, which also is reason for concern.) 
The defendants’ web pages, the survey indicated, “have the
effect of diminishing the perception of timeshare companies among a substantial
number of consumers and suggest to a substantial number of consumers that many
timeshare property companies are engaged in unlawful practices,” and “that they
can get out of their timeshare property contract for any reason.” [Is Diamond
arguing that it’s false to say that many timeshare property companies are
engaged in unlawful practices?  Has it
submitted proof about the level of unlawful practices among timeshare companies
generally?  If not, why is that question relevant?
In defamation, we’d impose an “of and concerning” requirement—the fact that
it’s not being imposed here suggests another benefit of a Lanham Act claim, at
least in front of a favorable court.]  Further, respondents were “likely to act on
information that suggests they can stop making or withhold payments on their
time share properties and … likely to retain the law firm if there was a high
probability that their timeshare developer was exposed legally in ways that are
relatively straight-forward and provable.”
The court rejected defendants’ challenges to the survey.
They argued that the survey should have been limited to timeshare owners who
want to get out of their timeshares rather than all timeshare owners, past or
present. But the ads are viewable by anyone online, and purport to tell consumers
“how to cancel their Timeshare Contracts when they may not have otherwise known
they could or when they did not currently desire to get out of their
timeshares.” So the population was ok, and it was also, according to the
surveyor, “consistent with the definition that would necessarily be used for
media scheduling purposes by an advertiser.”
None of the net deception rates exceeded 20%. But there was
no binding precedent requiring 20% and many other cases finding less than 20% “sufficient,
significant, and meaningful.”  [I tell my
students that 10% and below points to a defendant victory, 20% and above to a
plaintiff victory, and in the middle it’s factors other than the survey.]
Anyway, defendants’ evaluations differed from those of the expert, who was the
only consumer behavior expert in the case. 
He indicated that some results were less than 20% but still
“statistically significant.”  [OK, the
survey may be fine, but this is a non sequitur. 
A net deception rate of 1% might well be statistically significant—in
that we were pretty confident it was real and not an artifact of chance—but
statistical and practical significance are very different things.  I would also readily accept a rationale that
15% net deception is practically significant. 
But calling it “statistically significant” as if that were a measure of
the amount of deception, rather than a measure of our confidence in the result,
is misleading, and the court here seems to have been misled.]  The expert also calculated some results that
exceed 20% (possibly because he maintained that not all the questions required
controls, an argument that I would want more explanation of than the court
provided).
           
Materiality: There was sufficient evidence to go to a jury.
For example, Diamond’s damages expert’s report showed a temporal correlation
between when Diamond members retained defendants and when they stopped making
payments owed under their Timeshare Contracts, and there was evidence that many
Diamond clients found defendants through their website.  “So a reasonable jury could find that
something in the Subject Advertisements influenced the decision to stop making
payments or to pursue arbitration.”  [In
fact, the jury ought to have to find that the false elements of the ads influenced the decisions.] If a jury
found that the ads “misrepresented the quality of Diamond’s timeshares and
business practices,” that could suffice for materiality, which goes to whether
there’s a misrepresentation of an “inherent quality or characteristic of the
product” [or business operations].
Causation: “a plaintiff suing under § 1125(a) ordinarily
must show economic or reputational injury flowing directly from the deception
wrought by the defendant’s advertising,” which “occurs when deception of
consumers causes them to withhold trade from the plaintiff.” Defendants argued
that none of the ads directed viewers to stop making payments to Diamond or
start legal action, and that there was no evidence that the clients stopped
payments or initiated arbitration based solely on the ads.  That was irrelevant. Even without direct
evidence, a jury could find proximate cause.
At least some of defendants’ Diamond clients viewed the
website/associated videos, and the ads were viewed thousands of times as a
whole.  Eleven clients who retained
defendants through the firm website stopped paying Diamond within thirty days
before retaining them, and twenty did so after retaining them. And the survey
report concluded that the ads were likely to cause viewers to hire defendants
and to stop making payments. 
Regardless, the court found no authority for the proposition
“that the false advertising must be the only reason behind a consumer’s actions
for a plaintiff to prevail on a false advertising claim.” Proximate cause is
not sole cause or even predominant cause.
Florida law: Defendants argued that Florida’s litigation
privilege protected against state law claims. Florida’s litigation privilege
provides absolute immunity to statements or acts: (1) made or committed in
judicial or quasi-judicial proceedings; and (2) “connected with, or relevant or
material to, the cause in hand or subject of inquiry.” But that’s limited “to
conduct that is ‘necessarily preliminary’ to judicial proceedings”: pre-suit
communications that are a statutory or contractual condition precedent to suit.
The court found that defendants hadn’t met their burden to show that the
privileged applied.  Though statements
made during arbitration proceedings and in documents filed as part of those
arbitration proceedings fit within the privilege, “there is a factual dispute
on when Mr. Aaronson made statements to his clients about continuing payments
to Diamond and whether those statements were necessarily preliminary to or
sufficiently related to any arbitration proceedings.” Specific circumstances
could be investigated at trial.

Tortious interference: there was a disputed factual issue about whether the ads
caused Diamond members to stop paying. Also, Aaronson admitted that he advised
at least one client to discontinue payment, and there was evidence he so
advised at least one other couple. Was this privileged because he was their
agent?  The court found genuine issues of
fact about his motivation, given that Aaronson withdrew from representing the
Hardistys when they were sued for delinquent payments, and that he gave the
advice “knowing that Diamond had successfully counter-claimed against some of
his other Diamond Clients for delinquent payments.” He also “failed to explain
his motivation behind the advice he gave the Feldmans about ceasing payments—in
other words, he has not shown this advice was justified or privileged.”
Trade libel: Same issues as the Lanham Act claim. FDUTPA:
Likewise.
 

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Gerber Good Start off to a bad start in false advertising/allergy case

Hasemann v. Gerber Products Co., 2019 WL 1434263, Nos. 15-CV-2995
(MKB) (RER), 16-CV-1153 (MKB) (RER), 17-CV-93 (MKB) (RER) (E.D.N.Y. Mar. 31,
2019)
Hasemenn  alleged that
Gerber misrepresented that its “Good Start Gentle” infant formula was the first
and only formula that reduces the risk that infants will develop allergies, and
that GSG was the first and only infant formula that the FDA endorsed to reduce
the risk of infants developing allergies.  Here, the court certified Florida and New York
subclasses and denied certification of the North Carolina and multistate subclasses.
Brief background: in 2005, Gerber petitioned the FDA for
approval of a qualified health claim for GSG. The FDA rejected this in 2006
concluding that there was “no credible evidence to support the qualified health
claim relating consumption of 100 percent partially hydrolyzed whey protein in
infant formula to a reduced risk of food allergy.” Gerber tried again in 2009
with “emerging clinical research shows that, in healthy infants with family
history of allergy, feeding a 100% Whey-Protein Partially Hydrolyzed infant formula
instead of a formula containing intact cow’s milk proteins may reduce the risk
of developing the most common allergic disease of infancy — atopic dermatitis —
throughout the [first] year of life and up to [three] years of age.”  The FDA “determined that this claim
mischaracterized the scientific evidence and was therefore misleading.” It proposed
four alternative qualified health claims (of varying wishy-washiness and
dubious intelligibility to consumers), over which it would consider exercising
its enforcement discretion not to challenge the qualified health claim as long
as Gerber also included a statement about the risks of partially hydrolyzed
formulas to infants who are allergic to milk who have milk allergy symptoms.
Regardless, GSG went ahead with claims that, e.g., GSG is
the “1st & Only Routine Formula to REDUCE THE RISK OF DEVELOPING
ALLERGIES.” (Used on larger containers 2013-2016.)
 

1st and Only Routine Formula to Reduce Risk of Developing Allergies sticker

A manufacturer’s coupon bore a gold badge that reads: “MEETS
FDA QUALIFIED HEALTH CLAIM” around the outer perimeter of the badge and read in
large font “1st AND ONLY” in the center of the gold badge. A statement on the coupon
attachment stated that Good Start “is the first and only formula brand made
from 100% whey protein hydrolyzed, and that meets the criteria for a FDA
Qualified Health Claim for atopic dermatitis.” [I don’t admire the chutzpah here, but it does remind me of xkcd’s “contains a clinically studied ingredient.”] Gerber used the label “on
exterior product packaging” for some larger containers and the gold badge “on
supermarket displays advertising [GSG].” (Hasemann Compl. ¶ 47.) Specifically,
the coupon was attached to certain “containers of Good Start that contained 22
ounces or more of powder formula.”
 

GSG coupon

Gerber ran a 2012/2013 TV ad stating, “You want
your Gerber baby to have your imagination … your smile … your eyes … not
your allergies …. [I]f you introduce formula, choose the Gerber Good Start
Comfort Proteins Advantage.” A magazine ad likewise claimed, “If you have
allergies in your family, … research shows the formula you first provide your
baby may make a difference. In the case of Gerber® Good Start® Gentle Formula,
it’s the Comfort Proteins® Advantage that is easy to digest and may also
deliver protective benefits.” An ad that ran in People and Parents magazines in
2013 used a badge on the advertisement, “1st FORMULA WITH FDA QUALIFIED HEALTH
CLAIM,” and listed its website as gerber.com/allergy.
 

magazine ad

An ad in Drugstore News, a trade journal, also claimed that
GSG “is the first and only infant formula that meets the criteria for a FDA
Qualified Health Claim,” and in smaller font: “Breastfeeding helps reduce the
risk of developing atopic dermatitis – the most common allergy of infancy. Now
there is a formula that can help too, especially for those babies with a family
history of allergy. The 100% whey protein partially hydrolyzed used in our
Gerber Good Start formulas is easy to digest and may provide protective
benefits. This is out Comfort Proteins® Advantage and only Good Start has it.”
Another exhibit showed an in-store display sign from 2011
that contains a picture of a GSG container and the image of the gold badge
described above.
Plaintiffs argued that the ads made two deceptive claims:
(1) that GSG reduces the risk that infants will develop allergies (a claim
rejected by the FDA and also allegedly shown to be false by several studies),
and (2) that GSG meets the criteria for an FDA qualified health claim for
atopic dermatitis (not approved by the FDA, and Gerber didn’t use the FDA-required
qualifying statement).  In 2014, the FDA
sent a warning letter to Gerber over this conduct, stating that the health
claims were unauthorized and that the labeling was misleading.  The FTC also filed a still-pending lawsuit
over the labeling, and other consumer claims were filed/are pending.  Hobbs v. Gerber Prod. Co., No. 17-CV-3534,
2018 WL 3861571 (N.D. Ill. Aug. 14, 2018) (denying Defendant’s motion to
dismiss); Zakaria v. Gerber Prod. Co., No. 15-CV-00200, 2017 WL 9512587 (C.D.
Cal. Aug. 9, 2017) (decertifying after having initially certified a class),
aff’d, No. 17-CV-56509, 2018 WL 5977897 (9th Cir. Nov. 14, 2018); Slocum v.
Gerber Prod. Co., No. 16-CV-04120, 2016 WL 3983873 (W.D. Mo. July 25, 2016)
(remanding to state court); Nat’l Consumers League v. Gerber Prods. Co., No.
14-CA-8202 (D.C. Super. Ct. Aug. 8, 2015) (denying Defendant’s motion to
dismiss).
Gerber’s basic argument against the consumer protection
claims here was that “that the challenged claims did not consistently appear on
GSG’s labels and the advertising was extremely limited,” and that
“advertisements are often disseminated for short periods of time, and their
substance changes frequently.” Its marketing materials, it argued, emphasized
multiple benefits of GSG, and the majority had “nothing to do” with allergies
or the qualifying statement.  With
respect to each contested element of the certification standard, Gerber argued
that the variation in what consumers probably saw precluded a finding that
plaintiffs satisfied that element (e.g., typicality, predominance).
Although the case citations differ a bit (there are a lot of
them; future cases could easily look to this comprehensive opinion for a
review), the court’s ultimate conclusion for the Florida and NY subclasses was
the same for each element: Where, as with those states, the consumer protection
statute uses an objective standard for likely deception and doesn’t require
reliance, and where the plaintiff offers a price premium theory of damages, the
fact of some potential variation in exposure doesn’t preclude certification.
The challenged claims here (1) were widely advertised, including in store
displays even when they weren’t on the product packages and (2) had the same
core falsity problem even if they varied in terminology.  That was enough to go forward.  This result is consistent with the liberal
aims of the FDUTPA and NY GBL.  (Even in
California, which requires a more rigorous exposure/reliance showing, courts
should find exposure “[w]here the alleged misrepresentation appears on the
label or packaging of each item being sold,” but “[e]ven where each product is
not sold in a container on which the alleged misrepresentation appears,
class-wide exposure may be inferred where there is a sufficiently extensive
advertising campaign that includes the alleged misrepresentation.”) 
Causation and reliance, though related, should not be
conflated—a deceptive practice can cause actionable harm even without reliance,
for example through a price premium. Ultimately,
[t]he fact that the same label did
not appear on every single product of GSG that a consumer may have purchased,
does not mean that the deceptive act would not still have likely deceived a
consumer, given that the labels were both abundant, accompanied by advertising
campaigns, and appeared prominently on shelves where consumers shopped. To find
otherwise could encourage a defendant to avoid liability under the FDUTPA, a
broad statute, by for example, creating multiple labels for a product line.
At a mimimum, the court agreed with the magistrate judge
that, because “diminished risk of allergy was a consistent and prominent theme
among Gerber’s various marketing campaigns for GSG,” it was therefore a “ ‘near
certainty’ that every consumer was exposed to the alleged misrepresentations.”
Thus, plaintiffs could prove typicality despite the
variations in labels on the market. Without a reliance requirement, the court
declined to read any subjective inquiry into a plaintiff’s response into the
standard. “Plaintiffs are arguing that the same course of events — the unlawful
conduct of false labeling and marketing — resulted in price premiums for an
entire product line. … Plaintiffs will have the incentive to prove the elements
of the claims under the FDUTPA and GBL to the same degree that any individual
class member would.”
Ascertainability: Although some courts in the Second Circuit
have declined to permit the use of self-identifying affidavits as a way to
satisfy the issue of ascertainability, many recent false advertising cases have
allowed such affidavits, in part to protect the class action device as a key
mechanism for consumer protection law. The Second Circuit has specifically declined
to read an administrative feasibility requirement into the factor of
ascertainability, rejecting “heightened ascertainability test” found in other
circuits and confirming that ascertainability presents only a “modest
threshold” that “does not concern itself with the plaintiffs’ ability to offer
proof of membership under a given class definition.”
Further, consumers are more likely to remember their
purchases of baby formula—“a primary source of nutrition” and an “important”
purchase—and the time period during which they purchased than they are to
remember a random consumer product.  The
age/developmental stage of purchasers’ children will provide them with clear
referents.
Predominance:  “While
predominance may be difficult to demonstrate in mass tort cases, such as
Amchem, in which the ‘individual stakes are high and disparities among class
members great,’ it is a ‘test readily met in certain cases alleging consumer or
securities fraud or violations of the antitrust laws.’ ” “The objective
standards — including whether the representations would likely have misled a
reasonable customer — underlying the elements of the statutes render them
particularly well-suited to generating common questions.”
Finally, damages were subject to classwide proof under
damages models that could satisfy Comcast.  The plaintiffs’ burden at this stage isn’t to
prove injury but to show that it’s “capable of proof at trial through evidence
that is common to the class rather than individual to its members.” Plaintiffs
offered a number of class-wide methods to quantify the alleged price premium:
(1) using a generic as a benchmark and subtracting the price of the generic
from the price charged by Gerber; (2) calculating the value that Gerber
ascribed to its allergy claims; (3) looking at price increases and hikes made
during the class period; (4) running a “hedonic regression” analysis, which
“statistically analyze(s) fluctuations in price within a given group of products,
over a given time”; and (5) running “conjoint analyses,” which utilize surveys
in determining “the individual value consumers place on various product
attributes,” in order to “determine the hypothetical fair value of a product
absent any misrepresentations.” It offered two expert declarations saying this
could be done.  Gerber’s expert said it
couldn’t.
Comcast held that
a damages model must establish “that damages are capable of measurement on a
classwide basis,” and that “any model supporting a ‘plaintiff’s damages case
must be consistent with its liability case.’ ”  But in that case, the damages model assumed
the validity of four different theories of antitrust liability, only one of
which was legally valid by the time certification came around, so the model
wasn’t tied to the legal violation alleged.
Gerber argued that it was impossible to isolate the effect
of the challenged allergy claims because they were always promoted along with
multiple other product attributes and “there is no pricing variation between
those containers of GSG that displayed the challenged representation on the
label and those containers that do not.”
The court disagreed: several of the proffered damages models
were consistent with the theory of liability and injury in this case, and many
of Gerber’s specific arguments were premature.  The legal theory is that the
misrepresentations misled consumers into paying a price premium and all of that
theory is still in the case, unlike in Comcast.
And while conjoint analysis or other mechanisms for assessing the price premium
might ultimately fail, a conjoint analysis can lead to a proper damages
calculation if it takes relevant factors into account, such as the price of other
comparable products.

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Call for Authors – Feminist Judgments: Rewritten Property Opinions

Deadline for Applying: Friday, April 26, 2019
The U.S. Feminist Judgments Project seeks contributors of
rewritten judicial opinions and commentary on the rewritten opinions for an
edited collection tentatively titled Feminist Judgments: Rewritten Property
Opinions. This edited volume is part of a collaborative project among law
professors and others to rewrite, from a feminist perspective, key judicial
decisions in the United States. The initial volume, Feminist Judgments:
Rewritten Opinions of the United States Supreme Court, edited by Kathryn M.
Stanchi, Linda L. Berger, and Bridget J. Crawford, was published by Cambridge
University Press in 2016. Cambridge University Press has approved a series of
Feminist Judgments books. In 2017, Cambridge University Press published the tax
volume titled Feminist Judgments: Rewritten Tax Opinions. Other volumes in the
pipeline include rewritten trusts and estates opinions and rewritten family law
opinions.
Property law volume editors Eloisa C. Rodriguez-Dod and
Elena Maria Marty-Nelson seek prospective authors and commentators for fifteen
rewritten property opinions covering a range of topics. With the help of an
advisory board of distinguished property law scholars, the editors have
selected a list of cases that have not appeared in other Feminist Judgment
volumes; potential authors are welcome to suggest opinions which do not appear
on the list.
Proposals must be either to (1) rewrite a case opinion (subject
to a 10,000-word limit) or (2) comment on a rewritten opinion (subject to a
4,000-word limit). Rewritten opinions may be re-imagined majority opinions,
concurrences, or dissents. Authors of rewritten opinions will be bound by the
law and precedent in effect at the time of the original decision. Commentators
should explain the original court decision, how the rewritten feminist opinion
differs from the original decision, and the impact the rewritten feminist
opinion might have made. The volume editors conceive of feminism as a broad
movement and welcome proposals that bring into focus intersectional concerns
beyond gender, such as race, class, disability, gender identity, age, sexual
orientation, national origin, and immigration status.
To apply, please email (1) a paragraph or two describing
your area of expertise and your interest in this project; (2) your top two or
three preferences from the list of cases below; and (3) whether you prefer to
serve as an author of a rewritten opinion or an author of a commentary to a
rewritten opinion. Please submit this information via email to the editors,
Eloisa C. Rodriguez-Dod and Elena Maria Marty-Nelson, at elrodrig@fiu.edu and
nelsone@nova.edu by Friday, April 26, 2019. The Feminist Judgments Project and
the Property book editors are committed to including authors from diverse
backgrounds. If you feel an aspect of your personal identity is important to
your participation, please feel free to include that in your expression of
interest. The editors will notify accepted authors and commentators by Monday,
May 13, 2019. First drafts of rewritten opinions will be due on Monday,
September 16, 2019. First drafts of commentaries will be due on Monday, October
28, 2019.
Tentative List of Cases:
1.         Moore v. City
of E. Cleveland, 431 U.S. 494 (1977) (exclusionary zoning)
2.         Ass’n for
Molecular Pathology v. Myriad Genetics, Inc., 569 U.S. 576 (2013) (patents)
3.         Sawada v.
Endo, 561 P.2d 1291 (Haw. 1977) (tenancy by the entireties)
4.         Gruen v.
Gruen, 496 N.E.2d 869 (N.Y. 1986) (inter vivos gifts)
5.         Coggan v.
Coggan, 239 So. 2d 17 (Fla. 1970) (ouster of co-tenant)
6.         Phillips
Neighborhood Hous. Tr. v. Brown, 564 N.W.2d 573 (Minn. Ct. App. 1997) (lease
termination for illegal activity)
7.         Taylor v.
Canterbury, 92 P.3d 961 (Colo. 2004) (secret severance of joint tenancy)
8.         White v.
Samsung Elecs. Am., Inc., 971 F.2d 1395 (9th Cir. 1992) (publicity rights)
9.         Johnson v.
M’Intosh, 21 U.S. 543 (1823) (Native American property rights)
10.       Dolan v.
City of Tigard, 512 U.S. 374 (1994) (exactions/eminent domain)
11.       Bartley v.
Sweetser, 890 S.W.2d 250 (Ark. 1994) (premises liability)
12.       Tate v.
Water Works & Sewer Bd. of City of Oxford, 217 So. 3d 906 (Ala. Civ. App.
2016) (adverse possession and condemnation)
13.       Blake v.
Stradford, 725 N.Y.S.2d 189 (Dist. Ct. 2001) (ejectment of domestic partner)
14.       Moore v.
Regents of Univ. of California, 793 P.2d 479 (Cal. 1990) (property interest in
one’s genetic material)
15.       Pocono
Springs Civic Ass’n, Inc. v. MacKenzie, 667 A.2d 233 (Pa. Super. Ct.1995)
(abandonment of real property)

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misrepresentation of FDA clearance as FDA approval needs non-anecdotal evidence of consumer deception to be actionable

Repro-Med Sys., Inc. v. EMED Technol. Corp., 2019 WL 1427978,
No. 13-cv-01957-TLN-CKD (E.D. Cal. Mar. 29, 2019)
The parties have been fighting over their competing medical
devices for a while. Here, RMS alleged among other things that EMED was
intentionally misrepresenting FDA “clearance” as “approval.” There are other
cases indicating that this difference can be literal falsity, since clearance and approval
are two separate things, but the court here, relying on California law, required
evidence that the statements were “misleading to a reasonable consumer,” and
further stated that “[a]necdotal evidence alone is insufficient to prove that the
public is likely to be misled.”  Seamlessly transitioning to the Lanham Act
standard, the court required “extrinsic evidence, such as consumer survey
evidence, that the challenged statements tend to mislead consumers.”  By not analyzing the literal/implicit divide and whether “approval” has a literal meaning,
the court definitely raised the burden for RMS.
RMS provided the declaration of an FDA expert, who argued
that “to the consumer and public at large, an assertion of FDA approval carries
with it the implied statement that the product has been subjected to intense review
and scrutiny, and the costs of time and resources associated therewith.” But
this declaration was no substitute for extrinsic evidence of consumer
deception.
Similarly, RMS alleged that EMED’s promotional materials
present flow rate data inconsistent with the its 510(k), so that the data
provided to the FDA for clearance purposes differs from the data provided to
customers for marketing purposes.  Flow
rate is the amount of fluid which passes per unit of time, and too-fast or
too-slow delivery of infused medications can make a big difference to patient
health. As I understand it, RMS argued that EMED used a flow rate in its 510(k)
that allowed it to say it was the same as the RMS product, entitling it to
clearance; if the truth is otherwise (as indicated by the advertising
materials), then it should’ve sought separate approval.  But as EMED pointed out, the connection
between this discrepancy and false advertising as a cause of action is
unclear.  “RMS failed to provide concrete
evidence of how the alleged mischaracterization misled or confused the public.
While an average person may understand the flow rates are different, RMS has
provided no information as to how this understanding confuses, misleads or
deceives customers.”
Further, RMS attacked EMED’s CEO’s online statement that
RMS has been cited by the FDA for
numerous regulatory infractions, some of which have potential impact on patient
health and safety…. While RMS may snub its nose at the FDA, the deficiencies
uncovered by the FDA are serious business. To complete the record, RMS is also
a defendant in lawsuits being brought by EMED Technologies alleging that RMS
has been consistently infringing patents created and controlled by EMED, to the
detriment of the healthcare consumer.
RMS alleged that the CEO “was clearly aware that not only
has there been no finding of infringement, but that both of the patents at
issue stand at present as invalid.” Some of this was opinion, which couldn’t be
a material misrepresentation.  The
factual statements were verifiable; in early 2016, the FDA sent a warning
letter to RMS raising several adulteration and misbranding violations, that
“could significantly affect safety and effectiveness” of RMS products. Thus,
the “numerous regulatory infractions, some of which have potential impact on
patient health and safety” statement wasn’t objectively false. RMS argued that
a warning letter isn’t an enforcement action, as falsely implied by the EMED
statement, but again there was no evidence of consumer reception/deception.
Unsurprisingly, the court also found that RMS failed to show
irreparable harm or in any way quantify or concretize its losses; it declined
to adopt a presumption of harm from false comparative advertising (though that’s
likely at least in part driven by its refusal to find false advertising in the
first place).

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Variation in supplement bottle contents defeats consumer protection claim

Gaminde v. Lang Pharma Nutrition, Inc., 2019 WL 1338724, No.
18-cv-300 (GLS/DEP) (N.D.N.Y. Mar. 25, 2019)
Gaminde alleged that CVS Krill Oil contains only approximately
sixty percent of the 300mg of Omega-3 Krill Oil represented by the label, citing
“independent research funded by the United States Department of Agriculture[ ]
[ (USDA) ] and published in the Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture.”  The court dismissed the claim because Gaminde
failed to allege that the bottle he
bought was similarly deficient based on testing.  “[N]umerous factors … affect the nutrient
content amount from sample to sample, lot to lot, and bottle to bottle,” and
this created an issue of subject matter jurisdiction, requiring Gaminde to
prove his entitlement to proceed by a preponderance of the evidence.
The allegation that his bottle didn’t contain the labeled
amount of oil was conclusory and unsubstantiated. Although “[t]he court must
take all facts alleged in the complaint as true and draw all reasonable inferences
in favor of plaintiff, … jurisdiction must be shown affirmatively, and that
showing is not made by drawing from the pleadings inferences favorable to the
party asserting it.”
The journal study wasn’t enough to cross the line from
speculation to a preponderance of the evidence. “Gaminde’s failure to allege
that he tested his bottle of CVS Krill Oil—indeed, his failure to make any
allegation regarding how he knows that it was mislabeled—is fatal.”  [The court noted that the journal study seemed
to test two lots, not two bottles, but that didn’t matter.]  The USDA study itself “concede[d]” that
“[t]here are many possible reasons for the supplements containing less than the
stated label amount of [Omega-3 Krill Oil],” including “fluctuations in the fatty
acid concentrations of fish during different times of the year.”  The sample size was small, and the study was
published before Gaminde made his purchase, creating a temporal issue. The USDA
study tested CVS Krill Oil purchased in the areas around Lafayette, Indiana and
Chesterfield, Missouri, whereas Gaminde made his purchase in or around
Schenectady, New York.  All this made the
study unhelpful to Gaminde.
Query: if bottle contents vary so much, isn’t the consistent
labeling false or misleading?  Since
consumers apparently can’t bring claims, it’s up to regulators to do it if it is
to be done at all.

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