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Nominative fair use: when a logo is not too much

It may well be true that nominative fair use often entails just using a word, not a logo, but courts occasionally recognize that there are situations where the logo/trade dress is actually an important means of communicating and should still fall within nominative fair use. In the wild, that’s usually logos of social media sites, which regularly communicate “this is how to find me” and not “I am endorsed by.” Here’s an example from a competitor that was surely well advised:

Bing Webmaster tools screenshot showing Google search logo on left with invitation to import settings from Google

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when can pharma experts testify about compliance with the FDCA? (also some survey stuff)

ImprimisRX, LLC v. OSRX, Inc., 2023 WL 7390842, No.
21-cv-01305-BAS-DDL (S.D. Cal. Nov. 8, 2023)

Imprimis sued defendants, competitors in the compounding
pharmacy industry, for false advertising, trademark and copyright infringement,
and related claims. It alleged that defendants falsely advertised that they’re
in compliance with Section 503A of the FDCA, governing compounding.

The court here admits the parties’ experts.

Imprimis’s trademark survey expert (for secondary meaning)
didn’t use a control group, but that went to weight rather than admissibility
in the absence of other serious problems. The survey targeted an appropriate
population (ophthalmologists and optometrists as confirmed via a series of
employment questions), used a standard question format, provided a “don’t
know/have no opinion answer,” excluded respondents who answer questions too
quickly, randomized the questions, and surveyed an appropriate population size.
Nor did failure to address genericity render the survey inadmissible.

Another expert surveyed prescribers to opine on the extent
to which a company’s advertising claim that it operates in full compliance with
Section 503A is important to them. In the closed-response survey, the expert included
a question asking whether it would be “important to [respondents] when
selecting a compounding pharmacy” that the “Pharmacy is in compliance with
local zoning requirements” as a control question: Respondents that selected
this question were removed from her final estimates. Whether this control
adequately accounted for noise went to weight rather than admissibility. Again,
there weren’t other serious problems.

Defendants argued that the expert didn’t evaluate the
advertising at issue—the survey didn’t ask whether the “small-font claim” on defendants’
actual webpage would be important to prescribers in their purchasing decisions.
Using hypotheticals rather than the exact statements at issue went only to
weight; it was still relevant to materiality.

Defendants also argued that the survey’s results were
logically contradictory and thus fundamentally flawed. Although 54.1% of survey
respondents selected “Pharmacy operates in full compliance with Section 503A
regarding compounded drugs” under the FDCA as an important factor in selecting
a compounding pharmacy, in a separate question, 57.4% of survey respondents
answered they were not aware of Section 503A prior to taking the survey. Again,
this went to weight rather than admissibility unless “a survey’s results are so
illogical as to cast doubt over its reliability, the inquiry can move from
weight to admissibility,” which didn’t happen here.

The results were logically possible: “Prescribers can
maintain a preference that compounding pharmacies follow all applicable rules
and regulations without having an awareness of all the applicable rules and
regulations.” Also, the control question attempted to isolate Section 503A’s
importance relative to other, hypothetical regulations. Finally, “even if the
response is irrational where a respondent believes Section 503A compliance was
an important factor in selecting a compounding pharmacy but is unaware of
Section 503A, the assumed percentage of irrational responses is not so
significantly pervasive as to morph the issue from weight to admissibility.”

Plaintiffs also designated an expert on pharmacology and
pharmacy operations to opine on what compound medications are, what the
differences are between Section 503A and Section 503B facilities, what
restrictions govern Section 503A pharmacies, whether defendants operate in
compliance with Section 503A regulations, and why compliance with Section 503A
regulations is important.

The proposed expert was qualified: he was clinical faculty
at the University of California San Diego School of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical
Studies where he teaches classes in pharmacy law and ethics, among other
things. Although he wasn’t a licensed attorney, “his practical and academic
experience with compounding regulations qualifies him to offer his opinions
about compliance with Section 503A regulations.” And his expertise would assist
the jury: he was interpreting the evidence for whether defendants were filling
bulk orders in contravention of Section 503A and evaluating their suggestions
for order volume according to his familiarity with industry norms and
practices.

But did he offer impermissible legal conclusions? “The Ninth
Circuit has previously allowed expert testimony about compliance with industry
standards and regulations, where that testimony does not reach the ultimate
issue of law, even if that testimony was couched in legal terms.” This depends
a lot on exactly what the expert says. Here, he wouldn’t be allowed to present
statements such as “OSRX routinely violates the rules … of 503A pharmacies,”
but he could testify to his opinions on how to understand Sections 503A and
503B regulations and apply those industry norms, regulations, and practices to
the facts at hand.

Defendants’ proposed expert on the same topic got in too.
She didn’t need to be a statistician to testify that “OSRX routinely dispenses
its compounded drugs pursuant to valid patient-specific prescriptions, as
required under section 503A of the [FDCA].” She had “the requisite exposure and
experience to select a simple subset of prescriptions to review and is
qualified to opine on the subject matter as an expert witness under Rule 702.” But,
like plaintiff’s expert, she would not be allowed to say “OSRX’s dispensing
practices are compliant with 503A pharmacy requirements.” Instead, she could
testify about her review of OSRX’s prescription data and whether defendants
appear to prescribe products in bulk. Her review of the records would assist
the jury in understanding whether a valid prescription was present for each
allegedly bulk order/office stock, which a layperson would struggle to do.

 

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alleged Haitian corruption doesn’t make collection of “foreign taxes” misleading or material

Celestin v. Martelly, — F.Supp.3d —-, 2023 WL 6385 (E.D.N.Y. 2023)

Plaintiffs alleged Martelly, the then-President-elect of
Haiti, devised a “wide-ranging scheme” to impose fees and fix prices on money
transfers, food remittances, and international calls made to and from Haiti.
Martelly allegedly “promoted, marketed, advertised and sold” the Fees to the
public as necessary “to finance free education for impoverished children,”
knowing that wasn’t true: a program to fund free education in Haiti allegedly
does not exist. While the Government of Haiti purports to receive at least an
estimated $132 million per year from the Fees, there was allegedly no public
accounting.

The Sherman Act claims failed because they were antitrust
claims.

State law deceptive advertising claims were based on the
following statements:

1. “$1.50 and $0.05 added to money transfer and telephone
calls to Haiti are lawful taxes/fees imposed to raise revenue to fund free
education.”

2. “Taxes imposed to finance free education.”

3. “For all transfers, Receivers may receive less due to
foreign taxes.”

4. “Recipient may receive less due to fees charged by
recipient’s bank and foreign taxes.”

First, the plaintiffs didn’t allege the corporate defendants
(telecom/transfer companies) made any representations at all about the fees;
“recipient may receive less due to foreign taxes” was a generic disclaimer that
didn’t say anything about the lawfulness or validity of Haiti’s fees and was,
indeed, true. Nor did the allegations show that corporate defendants knew of
the education falsity. As for the rest, there was no allegation of reliance. “Moreover,
it is unclear how the education plan could be material in Plaintiffs’ decision
to send money or make phone calls to Haiti.” Indeed, the plaintiffs continued
to send money and make phone calls to Haiti despite their knowledge that the
funds are being misused.

FDUTPA specifically only applies to actions within Florida,
which weren’t sufficiently alleged.

 

 

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(c) infringement and false advertising claims against addiction treatment competitor survive, in part

New Directions Program v. Sierra Health & Wellness
Centers LLC, 2023 WL 7284797, No. 2:22-cv-01090-DAD-JDP (E.D. Cal. Nov. 1,
2023)

Plaintiff Gust is the “principal and owner” of plaintiff New
Directions and “has been an expert in the field of treatment of addiction and
intoxication for decades.” Gust allegedly “developed an outpatient treatment
model based on the principle of addiction as a pathological relationship to
intoxication rather than as a preference [for] a specific drug.”

One of Gust’s students was Daily, the founder of defendant
RHCS (now owned by Sierra); when he passed away, his wife—also a defendant—took
over. Plaintiffs allege that defendants falsely claimed credit for the “Gust
method,” and infringed the copyright in Gust’s book Effective Outpatient
Treatment for Adolescents by using copies with clients, copying two appendices
for a recorded presentation, and copying the book in a brochure listing six
stages of recovery that are identical to those described in the book.

The court first found that the Lanham Act claim was grounded
in fraud and had to satisfy Rule 9(b).

Challenged statement: “Jon Daily’s legacy will continue as
[Sierra Health and Wellness] will keep all of their intensive outpatient
program with the name Recovery Happens and his model of care.” This was
allegedly false because “Jon Daily had no model of care” and used the Gust
model. (Those two statements are arguably in some tension.) The “when” was
insufficiently alleged, so the court didn’t inquire further.

Challenged statement: “Sierra Health and Wellness and New
Start Recovery Solutions are proud … to offer the compassionate, insightful
and whole person outpatient addiction treatment philosophy founded by Jon
Daily.” The court found plaintiffs plausibly alleged that the addiction
treatment philosophy at issue was not, in fact, founded by Daily, and that
consumers would have no reason to doubt this claim. Materiality was also
sufficiently pled; the court credited plaintiffs’ argument that being connected
to “the legacy of an innovator in the field” makes it more likely that a
product will be chosen by consumers and makes defendants seem “more
substantial, credible and credentialed.” Plus, plaintiff Gust “practices in the
same building as [the moving defendants],” so “even minor perceived differences
between the two practices could plausibly influence consumers’ decisions.”

You may be wondering: what about Dastar and Sybersound’s
extension of that reasoning, which is binding on this court? So is the court!
It wasn’t going to evaluate the issue sua sponte, but it suggested that
plaintiffs be prepared to address the Dastar issues if they amended the
complaint. (Presumably it should feature in the answer as well.)

Challenged statement: in a section titled “the relevance of
Jon Daily,” defendants’ websites state: “ ‘ADDICTION is a PATHOLOGICAL
RELATIONSHIP to INTOXICATION.’ ” But Gust allegedly “developed the concept of
‘addiction to intoxication’ years before Jon Daily even entered the field.” Plaintiffs
plausibly alleged misleadingness in giving Daily credit for that idea, and
materiality for the reasons noted above.

 Challenged statement:
Daily “believed that individuals become addicted to INTOXICATION as a way of
dealing with life issues. If you remove the drug—the individual who is still
addicted to intoxication will find another way to get high. For example, by
using another substance or activity such as sex or gambling.”  Plaintiffs alleged that these “are all words
that David Gust taught for many years” and that “[a]ttribution to Jon Daily is
false and misleading ….” This wasn’t sufficiently alleged to constitute
deceptive attribution to Daily as innovator.

Challenged material: a video in which Daily “uses the Gust
phrase ‘Addiction to Intoxication’ ”; Gust’s book “can be seen on the video”;
Daily “makes a statement that … is clearly just [Chapter 1 from plaintiff
Gust’s book, “How to Help Your Child Become Drug Free”], repurposed”; and Daily
had “taken verbatim” plaintiff Gust’s “old series of projector slides” to use
as his own PowerPoint slide headers without attribution. Again, plaintiffs
didn’t sufficiently allege deception/that Daily claimed to have created the
ideas.

Other statements dismissed as puffery: “ ‘Exceed the
expectations of our clients’, ‘World Class’ and ‘Unlike any other in Northern
California.’ ” as well as statements that defendants use “evidence based
methods.”

Copyright: For the book, plaintiffs didn’t allege facts
indicating that defendants engaged in direct copying or unlawful
appropriation.  It was not enough to
allege conclusorily that “defendants have copied portions of this Book and have
used and published copies of portions of this book including copying and using
treatment documents with clients ….”

DVD: The question was whether plaintiffs sufficiently
alleged probative similarity between defendant’s DVD and two appendices to the
book, “the core of the intervention phase of the Gust model.” Plaintiffs alleged
that Gust’s book “describes the main topics explored in [the Gust] process as,
‘School, Family Relationship, Motivation, Legal Issues, Friendship and Social
life, Employment, Finances, Physical health, self image/self respect/emotions,
Additional examples’ ” And the DVD allegedly uses a slide that reads “ ‘self
inventory: where to explore in the process’ ” and lists the following
categories: “ ‘Family, Money, School, Sports, Legal Issue, Health, Mental
Health, Friends, Self, Spirituality, Sexuality, Additional Examples.’ ” This
allowed a reasonable inference that there wasn’t independent creation. “These
similarities and unusual features are not de minimis and permit the court to
draw the reasonable inference that the two lists are substantially similar
under the extrinsic test. The court need not engage in the application of the
intrinsic test in considering a motion to dismiss.”

A similar result on the brochure, where the overlap was in
describing the six stages of recovery: Recognition, Admission, Petition,
Acceptance, Volition, Conversion. I really can’t believe that should be
sufficient, but I recognize that in the Ninth Circuit there is essentially no
minimum boundary for actionable copying before, at least, summary judgment if a
factfinder could actually see the similarity.

 

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Artistic Expression or Crass Commercialism? Drawing the lines in Right of Publicity, Lanham Act, and Commercial Speech Cases

PLI Media Law conference

RT: There’s been a rapid and somewhat disorienting shift
from a seemingly ever-growing First Amendment freedom of speech to a seeming
indifference to speech and press based claims (as contrasted to religious
freedom claims) in many categories, concentrated in the sudden conservative
abandonment of the commercial speech doctrine. Historically, conservatives
opposed the commercial speech doctrine, which held out the prospect of greater
regulation of commercial speech than of noncommercial speech. However, as
conservatives identified commercial speech, or even just corporate speech and
practices, they’d like to regulate as being too woke, and in line with
populist, anti-monopoly principles, a number of judges, including judges from
varying political backgrounds, have signaled their lack of interest in free
speech claims, whether made against copyright, trademark, false advertising, or
right of publicity lawsuits. Although the Court long ago recognized that
defamation claims need First Amendment safeguards because the state, through
the judiciary, is making rules for speech, it is now unwilling to recognize the
need for similar limits on other causes of action.

 I’m going to talk briefly about last term’s Jack Daniels
case—a trademark infringement and dilution case—as well as Elster, argued last
week, in which the Justices appeared inclined to reject a First Amendment
challenge to the refusal to register the claimed mark “TRUMP TOO SMALL” for
t-shirts. Then I’ll talk about the 9th Circuit case Enigma Software
v. Malwarebytes, which allowed a false advertising claim to proceed based on
one software provider’s use of the terms “malicious” and “threat” to describe
its alleged competitor’s software, despite a dissent raising free speech
arguments. I’ll conclude with some general remarks about commercial speech
doctrine after 303 Creative and the pending NetChoice cases. 

Trademark: In Jack Daniel’s v. VIP Products, the Court held
that it did not need to apply or even decide the validity of a
speech-protective limit on trademark law designed to prevent trademark owners
from shutting down expressive works that comment on trademarks, known as the
Rogers test.  So long as the defendant
was using a similar term as a trademark to brand its own goods (here, dog toys
that parodied Jack Daniel’s well-known whisky bottle), trademark law’s test for
consumer confusion was all that was required. The First Amendment offered no
further protection for this speech, even though the Court did not categorize it
as commercial speech, and it would not have qualified as commercial speech
under ordinary standards.   The Court did
not decide whether the First Amendment offered any protection against trademark
infringement claims even for purely expressive noncommercial speech, as every
circuit to have considered the issue had held.  
But three Justices wrote separately to express their skepticism that
even purely expressive noncommercial speech involving trademarks merited a
speech-protective test, basing their argument on the fact that the statute did
not specifically outline such a test.

 The Court’s conclusion that a defendant’s use as a trademark
obviates the need for any further consideration of the First Amendment makes
sense, if at all, only as a strong form of the rule that commercial speech
receives significantly less protection that other forms of speech, combined
with an incredibly expansive definition of commercial speech. In Jack Daniels,
the Court claimed that the likely confusion test “does enough work to account
for the interest in free expression” in the context of trademark uses.  This language, as others have noted, is very
similar to its previous statement in Eldred that fair use and the
idea/expression distinction internal to copyright law provide all the First
Amendment protection necessary in the context of copyright infringement.   But in Eldred, the Court followed its
statement by explaining that the Copyright Clause provided a robust foundation
for federal copyright, and that the contemporaneous adoption of the Bill of
Rights and the first federal copyright act showed their compatibility. In Jack
Daniels, the Court said nothing further; its statement remained ipse dixit. Nor
could the court have said more: There is no Trademark Clause and no Founding
Era federal trademark law; indeed, the Court invalidated Congress’s first
attempt, nearly a century later.  And
what current courts call “likely confusion” would be unrecognizable to
Founding-era courts—or post-Reconstruction courts—both of which protected
trademark owners in far more limited circumstances: only in cases of “passing
off,” where the defendant’s goods would substitute for purchases of the
plaintiff’s goods. Current confusion doctrine is very different in many ways,
two of the most important being, first, that there is no materiality
requirement—consumers need not care at all about the thing they’re supposedly
confused about, and that itself makes confusion easier to find because people
aren’t careful about things they don’t care about. Second, modern confusion
covers not just confusion over the source of goods or services but, in many
cases, confusion over whether the plaintiff’s permission was required or
whether there is some sort of undefined “affiliation” between the parties. The
Court’s statement that the likely confusion test provides the only necessary
protection for the First Amendment thus lacks either the explanatory apparatus
it offered in Eldred or a basis in text, history, or structure.

 Where, then, is the sufficiency of likely confusion from? It
has long been true that the First Amendment assigned no value to “false
statements of fact,” justifying restrictions on deceptive commercial
speech.  But, as I’ll discuss more in a
moment, it is possible to turn almost any objection to speech into the claim
that the speech is misleading. Jack Daniels suggests that speech might get no
First Amendment protection against claims labeled “trademark” claims beyond
whatever dubious safety a multifactor likelihood of confusion test may provide—something
that generally requires expensive litigation to work out.  The Court also revived Jack Daniel’s dilution
claim, which was not based on any falsity or risk of confusion but on the
theory that being associated with dog poop would “tarnish” the consumer image
of Jack Daniel’s even though consumers understood that there was no relation
between the companies. 

 Last week’s oral argument in Elster highlighted both the
Justices’ skepticism about free speech claims in the trademark realm and their
lack of interest in the realities of litigation. The Court seems likely to
uphold the prohibition on registering TRUMP TOO SMALL without Trump’s consent,
even though the use isn’t confusing. This will be based on the assertion that
Elster has the right to use TRUMP TOO SMALL on the front of t shirts even
without a registration, and that he couldn’t be prohibited from doing so. But,
if the Court also says there is a legitimate interest in prohibiting
source-indicating uses of an unconsenting person’s name, then that will suggest
a more formalist version of what counts as a trademark use. 

Consider for example this argument by Gov’t: “As long as
[Elster] can use the expression and as long as he can obtain the benefits of
trademark registration by choosing a different source identifier to distinguish
his goods from others, he has all he needs [for his free speech]”

 This concept of source identifiers is very important: it has
to be somewhat normative if we are preserving his ability to use the
expression. The limit case is when TM owners convince 15% or more of consumers
that any reference to them at all requires permission—the Court seemed
unwilling to deal with that scenario, which fits the facts of a number of the
Rogers cases it distinguished in JDI where the court simply declared that song
titles and movie titles weren’t being used as indicators of source.

 Everything here turns on what the Court understands source
identification to mean; if any use that causes any confusion about anything is source-identifying,
then the Court will be allowing huge amounts of speech suppression, but if it
adheres to the idea that trademark, source-indicating use can be objectively
identified and doesn’t exist merely because there’s some kind of confusion,
that can point the way to a workable regime.

 My main worry is that the Justices have no interest in the
fact that lower courts have routinely considered the existence of confusion
about something, including about whether the TM owner gave permission for an
accused use, as proof of trademark use.

 For example, Justice Jackson said: “trademark is not about
expression. Trademark is not about the First Amendment and … people’s ability
to speak. Trademark is about source identifying and preventing consumer
confusion.”

 That has to be a normative concept of source identification!
And it’s incoherent without more (if things are confusing, it’s because they express
a message about source or sponsorship; Justice Jackson has to mean that
trademark infringement is not about protected expression—but that doesn’t
really explain what trademark registration is about).

 The Court’s indifference to expressive elements of TMs also
conflicts with the Court’s previous claims in Tam, and even Jack Daniel’s, that
TMs themselves often have lots of non-source-indicating expressive meaning:
Jack Daniels isn’t just a piece of information, it is a lifestyle and brand
identity—but then shouldn’t people be able to criticize that identity if they
aren’t making false claims?  Court can’t
seem to figure out how to handle that duality between pure information and
brand value.

 The Court’s First Amendment jurisprudence in IP may reflect
its current preoccupation with legislative over judicial restrictions on
speech.  The legal realists taught us
that an injunction issued by a judge and enforced by the threat of prison is
every bit as much state action as an ordinance passed by a city council. But
the Court today seems much less concerned about courts actually ordering people
not to speak. The Court’s willingness to see threats to speech in the
government’s refusal to register trademarks but not in the government’s banning
the sale of products bearing messages altogether suggests that the imperial
judiciary is alive and well in the First Amendment arena.

 Turning to Enigma and false advertising: Commercial speech
doctrine has generally treated false or misleading commercial speech as
completely unprotected by the First Amendment (with some wiggle room for speech
that might be correctable with further disclosures). The attack on commercial
speech doctrine has historically focused on preventing government regulation of
non-false advertising—speech that might encourage unwise consumption of alcohol
or tobacco, for example. Thus, commercial speech doctrine got closer and closer
to strict scrutiny if the government was regulating outside of the false
advertising context, but remained relatively lax if the government was
targeting deception.

 But this sharp cliff between types of regulation puts a
premium on being able to distinguish false and misleading speech from speech
that persuades people to do unwise things. This has always been a weak point:
if you defer to the government on what is misleading, then the government can
regulate a lot of commercial speech, even if most people are persuaded rather
than misled. A few Terms back: NIFLA said that these rules didn’t apply to
antiabortion counseling, even with evidence that clients were misled about what
these antiabortion services did. And some people took that as a signal that
mandatory disclosures generally were in trouble, though I was never
particularly persuaded: my own view is that abortion rules are special and the
Court ignores the ordinary First Amendment analysis in abortion cases.

 Enigma is a useful test case because it sounds like a
standard false advertising case: the parties allegedly compete (though the
defendant doesn’t agree that they do) and its software labeled the plaintiff’s
software as a potential threat or potential malware. Although the Ninth Circuit
majority acknowledged that there’s a lot of judgment involved in deciding what
is malware, it rejected the defendant’s argument that threat or malware were
nonactionable opinion, in the context of threat defense software. A dissent
argued that this was classic opinion, given the ambiguities in the definition
of malware, which can include stuff that’s just not helpful. And I tend to
think that we should be willing to find falsifiability where the advertiser
claims some kind of expertise in the field, even if we shouldn’t find ordinary
users’ characterizations of something as malware to be potentially defamatory.
But it’s also useful to note that Enigma applied the Lanham Act, which bars
false or misleading commercial advertising generally, rather than legislatively
or administratively identifying a more specific practice. Thus, case by case
adjudication in court is required to find deception. By contrast, a district
court in Colorado last week granted antiabortion activists the right to
advertise “abortion reversal” despite an legislative finding that there is no
such thing—because the drugs at issue could lawfully be administered for other
conditions, the activists had free exercise rights to promote them for abortion
reversal. Of course the situation isn’t exactly the same, but it’s indicative
of where judicial deference is going—to people making religious claims and not
to legislatures making findings of fact.

 Compare the question: can one lawfully advertise conversion
therapy to change a young person’s sexual orientation? NJ case a few years back
allowed false advertising claims against the advertiser to proceed. But: If the
government can decide that the promise of conversion therapy is false, can a
different government also decide that it is false and misleading to offer
gender affirming care to trans youth? If you think that the problem is that
this issue is too politicized to allow one side to be labeled false, consider
how many other things have become politicized, and will be politicized if one
party acts. One recent Major area of contestation has been: vegan meat and
dairy substitutes. Meat-producing states have tried to declare that it’s
inherently misleading to use terms like chik’n or sausage, or even oat milk.
Courts so far have struck those down because in the courts’ own views the terms
aren’t misleading—but there are surveys out there that say otherwise for a
nontrivial number of consumers. In addition, the real problem with the vegan
alternatives is that they often have a very different nutritional profile;
there are tragic cases of children who have suffered diseases like kwashiorkor
because their parents were feeding them only vegan alternatives. And the
evidence is very clear that ordinary consumers do not understand the nutritional
differences between almond milk and cow’s milk. Does that mean a ban on the
term “almond milk” is justified?

 The usual response is to punt to disclosures: we’ll fix this
problem by telling people the nutritional content is different! Information
overload makes this less effective; the very power of the term “milk” as a cognitive
shortcut tends to lead people to believe they don’t need to know any more,
meaning that they ignore additional information. So in fact you may not be able
to solve the problem with more disclosures. But they’re politically palatable
in ways that bans usually aren’t, so disclosures are a popular solution.

 They can also be incredibly burdensome, often not because of
the costs of publicizing the disclosure itself but because of the record
keeping that needs to be done. For example, keeping records to ensure that all
one’s contractors feed cows organic feed can be difficult, as can identifying
the country of origin of each head of cattle if it’s cheapest to just commingle
them in huge lots. And here we arrive at the latest wrinkle in Commercial
speech doctrine generally:

 NetChoice: Texas and Florida, explicitly trying to punish
companies perceived as being too liberal, enacted burdensome requirements on
large social media companies. I’m not going to discuss the viewpoint neutrality
mandate, but both states also ordered social media companies to provide
detailed information to users about every moderation decision they made, with
risks of substantial penalties for every error or failure to disclose enough
information to satisfy the states’ AGs. The 11th Circuit struck this
compelled speech down even using intermediate scrutiny, while the 5th
Circuit held it was an unremarkable disclosure mandate regulating commercial
speech. The key move made by the 5th Circuit was to treat all
content policies as commercial speech, which also suggests that the Washington
Post’s editorial policies are commercial speech. Of course, the point was to
make it extremely expensive, burdensome and risky to moderate content, with the
predictable result that companies would do a lot less moderation, so here we
have disclosure that is defended as protecting consumers—so they’ll know what
the actual terms of service are and how they’re enforced—but actually enacted
to change the underlying content policies. Nor are liberals immune from this:
Washington DC’s AG is seeking to get information about individual facebook
accounts to make a claim about its actual policies on covid denial being other
than they were supposedly advertised to be.

 I hesitate to make predictions here but I posit to you that
a Court that no longer sees the point of protecting nonreligious speech, or no
longer sees media entities as having their own speech interests distinct from
those of their users, is going to be dangerous for media freedom far beyond
intellectual property claims.

 Bennett Cooper (Bad Spaniels/VIP): Without a safe harbor, we
have to fight hard on the confusion arguments on remand. We are confident in
that, as well as a challenge to the viewpoint discriminatory nature of dilution
by tarnishment. You have to sell the joke: if the courts don’t get it, you’re
having a harder time: Kagan didn’t get the joke.

 Panel Leader: Jeremy Feigelson: Is the 1A in trouble when
courts avoid doctrine and say “this is just a TM case”?

 A: We’ll have to see. Speech as its own category/do other
categories take free speech into account, for example if the multifactor test
can offer true speakers offramps from the multilane highway of litigation, that
can help.

 Bruce Johnson: Commercial speech doctrine is becoming more
uncertain as a category. NetChoice cases are compelled editorial transparency;
both 11th and 5th Circuit used commercial
speech/Zauderer, which is the weakest test available. It only applies to ads!
Why use this category to interpret compelled editorial transparency? Baffling!
Unclear to what extent we’ll have commercial speech as a separate doctrine, as
opposed to “Zauderer for speech we don’t like.” AG pressures: efforts to
prohibit Yelp users from communicating about crisis pregnancy centers, using
the Little FTC act in Texas. Washington/Value Village case: if we can squeeze
this into commercial speech, we can regulate the hell out of it. Users were
commenting about things protected by 1A until Ken Paxton decided that wasn’t
ok. Making commercial speech law incoherent.

 Jennifer Rothman: Commercial speech doctrine has been
eroded/diluted over decades. Part of a larger story of Court deferring to
property rights over speech. After Jack Daniels we have questions and concerns
both within TM and 1A. Rogers is important to a variety of creative industries
that have relied on it for references to identities/marks. Court clearly
signals that it doesn’t love Rogers, but they didn’t make a bright line about
use as a mark. But that’s also true of Rogers itself, where Ginger Rogers’ name
was incorporated into the movie title itself, which seems to function at least
in part like a source identifier (contingent on identifying a particular
creative work, which because of copyright law will be from a particular source
for a while).

 Thinks the lower courts will still gravitate to Rogers in
traditional expressive use cases, not product cases. But products can be
expressive, some will say! Still, courts are going to draw lines. Not really a
comment; using value of mark to make a joke, which is generally disfavored. We
may see less destabilization b/c courts are still going to prefer/protect
traditional expressive uses and not “commercial products.” But this also
destabilizes defenses to ROP claims, in conjunction with Warhol, b/c some courts
have also relied on Rogers in ROP cases. To the extent that Warhol calls
transformativeness into question v. market harm, states like California that
use transformativeness in 1A defenses to ROP will also see those destabilized.
Finally, dilution: doesn’t think Court shares her (or RT’s) concerns—dicta
suggests that Court will find dilution by tarnishment ok, even if it seems
viewpoint-based.

Johnson: Bigelow v. VA was an abortion speech case; Court
went out of its way to protect commercial speech where something was legal in
one state and illegal in another; we’ll see more efforts pushed on whether and
to what extent speech is purely commercial or whether there are expressive
rights underneath it.

Feigelson: connection to 303 Creative?

A: decided on slender record; Court went out of its way to
protect website developer from being compelled against her will to respond to a
person who allegedly called her and wanted to have a gay wedding website; this
doesn’t seem to be true but the Court still said she didn’t have to provide
service. Court eliminated Colorado’s disclosure requirements too. Zauderer
requires you to provide corrective speech where your affirmative commercial
speech would otherwise be misleading; but the test is “purely factual/noncontroversial,”
and that doesn’t seem to apply here.

Feigelson: Elster: is Court going out of its way to limit
the First Amendment?

A: not really what the case is about—don’t overcommit to
preliminary interpretations. But they were suggesting that the free speech
interests weighed in the other direction: allowing one registration of Trump
Too Small could prevent other criticism of Trump b/c Elster could block
competitors. There are some arguments that the 1A weighs against registration
here [though will the Court recognize that with other registrations?]. Other
connections: 2(c) bar is about gov’t interest in protecting individual identity—“longstanding”
protections for individual identities in TM law. This is an instance where you
don’t have to show likely confusion about sponsorship/endorsement. That
suggests again the Justices’ willingness to allow claims not rooted in showings
of likely confusion—which would be helpful for dilution’s survival.

Cooper: These cases are on a spectrum: viewpoint
discrimination v. neutrality; whether you’re talking about the right to have a
good name v. effectiveness as a source identifier. Tam/Brunetti found viewpoint
discrimination, whereas 2(c) is viewpoint-neutral [except in combination with
2(a) and 2(d)]. Tarnishment situation is more like Tam/Brunetti, because you’re
talking about banning nonconfusing uses with a particular viewpoint. 2(c)’s
consent requirement is more about source identification: worry about potential
endorsement/connection. Blurring is about effectiveness of mark as wayfinder in
marketplace; the Court might favor that b/c it’s closer to TM’s function.
Tarnishment is a “happy talk” provision.

Turning to ROP:

Rothman: Writers’ strike is settled; actors continue—they
seem close on residuals, pay structure, streaming. But still outstanding in
external reporting is AI provisions. Concerned about studios/producers scanning
actors and reusing them w/out control or payments.

Lots of legislation proposed furthering particular parties’
interests, including NO FAKES act—resurrecting James Dean—deceased performers
could replace work for the living, and we don’t necessarily want to create more
robust rights in the dead to allow that replacement to take place. SAG/draft
legislation hasn’t addressed need for disclaimers/revealing to the public that
the actual person had nothing to do with the work, which could be important far
beyond creative industries.

Originally NO FAKES was fast-tracked, sponsored across party
lines. But it turned out not everyone could agree on it.

Feigelson: should Enigma cause worries about product
reviewers?

RT: depends on how integrated you are with your sponsors. If
you are heavily integrated, then disclosure at a minimum is required. And if
you’re making health claims then yes you should worry. But Wirecutter is
unlikely to be treated as commercial speech—that’s a product review.

Johnson: “threat” and “malware” would be 1A protected
opinion in most circumstances; the 9th Circuit found them suspicious
b/c a competitor used those terms—an exception created when it’s not quite
commercial speech (footnote says that it wasn’t clear this was commercial
speech; that was for remand). Liability wouldn’t arise in a pure op-ed.

 

 

 

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Timeshare developer wins disgorgement against timeshare exit marketers despite unclean hands

Bluegreen Vacations Unlimited, Inc. v. Timeshare Lawyers
P.A., 2023 WL 7109914, No. 20-24681-Civ-Scola (S.D. Fla. Oct. 27, 2023)

Intro:

In this trial, the Court has learned
that tens of thousands of timeshare owners have been victimized twice: first by
the timeshare industry, which used false and misleading tactics to induce the
owners to purchase their timeshares —often financed with high-interest
mortgages; and second by the timeshare exit industry, which charged the owners
thousands of dollars and used false and misleading tactics to tortiously induce
them to breach their contracts with the timeshare companies, thus exposing them
to damaged credit.

Bluegreen sued a lot of entities, but only the marketing
defendants remained in the case: their role was “to advertise timeshare exit
services by promoting a legitimate process to exit timeshare contracts while
protecting the customers’ credit.” Bluegreen sued them for Lanham Act false
advertising, tortious interference, and violation of Florida’s Deceptive and
Unfair Trade Practices Act. Previously, the court granted partial summary
judgment in Bluegreen’s favor only for tortious interference as to 15 timeshare
owners (except for damages) and its FDUTPA injunctive relief claim. Bluegreen
elected to proceed only on its equitable claims, including requesting
disgorgement, and sought a bench trial. After trial, the court found in
Bluegreen’s favor and awarded $100,000 in disgorgement damages for the false
advertising.

The court began by recounting timeshare owners’ testimony
that Bluegreen lied to them and otherwise defrauded them, including by falsely
promising that owners could rent out timeshares for extra money. “Bluegreen
asked the Court to accept as credible the testimony of the timeshare owners
relating to misrepresentations made to them by Pandora, but to reject the same
owners’ testimony concerning misrepresentations made to them by Bluegreen. This
is simply not plausible.”

Meanwhile, defendants claimed to only accept timeshare
owners who were subjected to misrepresentations—but they also took the position
that this happens to every timeshare owner. (They might be closer to right than
wrong on this one, based on the cases.) When soliciting customers, defendants
made false claims part of the script—e.g., “we’re going to protect your
credit.” This was literally false and highly material to consumers; they
couldn’t guarantee credit protection, and customers testified that they experienced
negative credit effects after ceasing payment to Bluegreen. Indeed, the defendants
failed to introduce any evidence that they protected or repaired even a single
Bluegreen timeshare owner’s credit.

Likewise, the marketing defendants told potential customers
during that an attorney that Bluegreen owners separately retain would provide
them with an exit from their timeshare obligations. They touted attorney
involvement as key to their services. It was literally false to tell potential
customers that the attorneys would provide the exit, because the lawyers’ steps
were insufficient to do so. All the lawyers would do was send a C&D and a
demand letter; they wouldn’t litigate or arbitrate, and they couldn’t force
Bluegreen to act. Any “exit” came from default. Likewise, it was false to claim
that their process cancelled timeshare contracts “permanently and legally ….”
when the defendants “virtually never” delivered an “exit” to a Bluegreen Owner
except through default. In a particularly “yikes” bit, one marketing defendant

1990. In email correspondence with the Lawyer Defendants, a
Marketing Defendant employee stated “[p]lease know that we do not want [the
fact that the lawyers send only two letters] mentioned to clients. Whenever we
ask the firm to contact a client, we are doing so in hopes that the firm
reassures a client that they’re doing all that they can to help cancel, not
that they aren’t doing anything else on the file besides sending out two
letters…. less is more when it comes to clients ….” They kept doing it even
when they knew Bluegreen had a policy of not responding to these letters.

Customers also testified that attorney representation was
material to them, as were other false statements about defendants’ “perfect”
success rate, e.g., “we are consumer advocates, we’ve never lost a single case,
we have won [sometimes ‘resolved’] every case we’ve taken.” This was false
because they’d had to refund timeshare owners for failure to achieve an exit,
and there were other clients who still have active Bluegreen contracts. And
there were false statements that, once the attorney contacts the developer, the
owner is out or done with the timeshare, and can stop making payments. Numerous
owners testified that they stopped paying Bluegreen based on these
instructions, including statements that stopping payments would make the
attorneys’ process “faster,” “quicker,” or “easier.” (Here’s one script: “I
cannot tell you to stop making payment that would be unprofessional and
unethical. However, we have found that we are able to get you out quicker if
you do not make payments.”) This was false because the attorneys had nothing to
do with it: the default was the only thing that mattered.

Lanham Act specific analysis: did the telephone sales
presentations that were the “last stage” of the ad campaign, where the false
statements occurred, constitute “commercial advertising or promotion”? Yes. The
defendants use

a nationwide, multi-stage campaign
involving various dissemination methods, including Pandora’s website, in-person
presentations, and social media. The result of this comprehensive advertising
is the scheduling of timeshare owners to speak with an analyst who delivers the
sales presentation, an integral part of the multi-stage campaign. The sales
presentations were thus “part of an organized campaign to penetrate the
relevant market,” i.e., the market of timeshare owners seeking a release from
their timeshare obligations.

And the falsities were part of the scripts and other
training materials; audio recordings showed that they appeared “with
regularity.”

Bluegreen was also injured, and it didn’t need to prove as
much once it dropped its request for legal remedies. “The burden for
demonstrating causation under the Lanham Act is lower for equitable relief and
actual damages need not be proven.” Disgorgement of profits “is appropriate
where: (1) the defendant’s conduct was willful and deliberate, (2) the
defendant was unjustly enriched, or (3) it is necessary to deter future
conduct.” But disgorgement “shall constitute compensation and not a penalty.”

Equity also requires that the Court consider a plaintiff’s
unclean hands. This is relevant because the owners generally testified that
Bluegreen lied to them first. “But for Bluegreen’s wrongful conduct, owners
would not have sought out Pandora in an attempt to unburden themselves from a
lifetime of limitless and ever-increasing maintenance fees and years of
high-interest loan payments, totaling tens of thousands of dollars, in exchange
for illusory timeshare accommodations.” 
But the defendants learned the ropes in the timeshare industry, “then
used their inside knowledge to victimize the owners a second time.”

There was evidence that Bluegreen owners paid over $1.5
million to the marketing defendants; defendants’ deductions were not reliable,
so the court found disgorgement of $100,000 to be appropriate based on
defendants’ and Bluegreen’s own conduct.

Tortious interference: that too.

 

 

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Second Circuit finds false advertising claim against “reef safe” plausible

Richardson v. Edgewell Personal Care, LLC, 2023 WL 713094,
No. 23-128 (2d Cir. Oct. 30, 2023)

Richardson brought NYGBL claims against Edgewell’s “Reef
Friendly*” and “*No Oxybenzone or Octinoxate”/“*Hawaii Compliant: No Oxybenzone
or Octinoxate” sunscreens, alleging that the products contain other
reef-harming ingredients. The court of appeals reversed the district court’s
dismissal of the complaint.

The “Reef Friendly*” front label “could plausibly mislead a
reasonable consumer into thinking the products contain no reef-harming
ingredients.” And the back-label disclaimer, “*No Oxybenzone or Octinoxate” or
“*Hawaii Compliant: No Oxybenzone or Octinoxate,” was “incomplete because it
makes no mention of the four other reef-harming ingredients found in the
products.” Taken together, a reasonable consumer could be misled; the
disclaimer wasn’t sufficiently clarifying. Richardson was not expected to “look
beyond misleading representations” on the front label “to discover the truth
from the ingredient list” that the product contains reef-harming ingredients. And
even if she were, “a reasonable consumer cannot be expected to know the
universe of chemicals harmful to coral reefs such that she could discern from
an ingredient list describing the product’s contents in scientific terminology
whether a product is in fact ‘Reef Friendly.’”

This reasoning also necessitated reversal on the express
warranty claim.

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What’s next after Elster?

UNH symposium: Section Two Small

Panel III – What’s Next? Moderated by Peter Karol, UNH
Franklin Pierce School of Law

RT: Organized my remarks in response to the oral arguments in Elster, hopefully not
too repetitive. Strong job by gov’t lawyer, including responding to the
questions that asked how © could be distinguished from TM; the government was
attempting to resurrect the argument that TM registration is a gov’t benefit; that
is, denying someone a government benefit for their speech is different from a
ban on their speech and can be content based, even if it can’t be viewpoint
based. Although Tam rejected that argument, some of the Court seemed to have
buyer’s remorse in Brunetti, recognizing that almost all of TM law is content
based; if we’re going to have a registration system at all, we need to make
some content based distinctions.

Justices asked Multiple questions about copyright law: even
experienced lawyers may conflate copyright and trademark. But I didn’t hear
ignorance; I heard Justices seeking to write an opinion reversing the Federal
Circuit limited to TM law and asking for guidance on how to do so.

So: if the gov’t can bar registration of a TM including a
disparaging reference to a person without that person’s permission, can it also
bar you from a © registration if your work disparages a living person? Although
the government’s response was fine as far as it went—that © is a different
regime with different traditions—it didn’t explain why copyright was
different, presumably because that would have started to sound like an
unconstitutional conditions analysis which the government didn’t want to risk.
The fact of the matter is that copyright is interested in incentivizing
creative expression, and whether that expression is about a living person without
their permission is irrelevant to copyright’s purpose.

If you just simply say “there’s no tradition of doing this
in copyright,” by contrast, you can’t explain why or when you
might draw analogies or recognize limits.

Consider, for example, whether Congress could enact a law
denying TM registration to entities in the business of producing pornography, or
denying registration to marks that refer to pornography. Or abortion. Those are
content/speaker based, but are they in any way related to the purposes of TM?
To the contrary, they harm consumer protection and business development and
have to be understood as punishing a business Congress disagrees with. That
would seem to raise serious unconstitutional conditions questions. But the
Government’s approach would make it unproblematic.

Unfortunately, the Court’s choose your own adventure
approach to history was very much on display in some other exchanges.

For example Justice Gorsuch said: “there’s a long historical
tradition … of the living-person name, just as there is with geography and
other things like that.”

And that’s just completely untethered to the actual history

–no substantive federal TM until the Lanham Act; first
attempt struck down as unconstitutional—a tradition that is younger than my
parents is not usually the kind of tradition the Court’s current majority pays
attention to

–no tradition of requiring consent for registration or use
of marks that demean rather than impersonate, whether at the state level or
otherwise

–no tradition of treating the fame of a person as
equivalent to the secondary meaning required to generate rights in a name alone;
the common law would not have understood the idea that Trump could have
blocking rights in fields he wasn’t exploiting, or rights against nonconfusing
uses even in fields he was exploiting.

History seems to be wielded extremely selectively even in
relatively unpoliticized cases, which is perhaps a cautionary note about using traditions
generally.

Meanwhile, Elster was essentially arguing for a type of
unconstitutional conditions analysis. The gov’t sought rational basis review,
whereas Elster argued that the restriction had to be reasonable in light of the
gov’t program: Which raises the question: is protecting a person’s dignity
beyond potential confusion a reasonable basis? What else would be allowed by
that (GIs, flags).

Strongest argument for Elster: protecting dignity against
overt criticism is not reasonably related to the acceptable purposes of TM law,
and enacts the same sort of viewpoint based tilt as in Tam where praise of
groups was ok but criticism was not: if that’s viewpoint based this should be
(of course Tam might have been wrongly decided).

Although this case is about registration, it could very
easily have implications for infringement. If the Court insists that Elster has
the right to use TRUMP TOO SMALL on the front of t shirts even without a
registration, and that he couldn’t be prohibited from doing so, even though
there is a legitimate interest in prohibiting source-indicating uses of an
unconsenting person’s name, then that will suggest a more formalist version of
what counts as a trademark use.

Consider for example this argument by Gov’t: “As long as
[Elster] can use the expression and as long as he can obtain the benefits of
trademark registration by choosing a different source identifier to distinguish
his goods from others, he has all he needs [for his free speech]”

This concept of source identifiers is very important: it has
to be somewhat normative if we are preserving his ability to use the
expression.

But, caveat, compare Booking.com where the Court seems to
think that TM has no normative components, it’s all empirical about what is
functioning as a mark: the limit case is when TM owners convince 15% of
consumers that any reference to them at all requires permission and so there’s
at least a 43(a) violation in any unauthorized reference—the Court seemed unwilling
to deal with that scenario, which fits the facts of a number of the Rogers
cases it distinguished in JDI.

Everything here turns on what the Court understands
“trademark” and source identification to mean; if any use that causes any
confusion about anything is actionable, then the Court will be allowing huge
amounts of speech suppression, but if it adheres to the idea that trademark,
source-indicating use can be objectively identified and doesn’t exist merely
because there’s some kind of confusion, that can point the way to a workable
regime.

My main worry is that the Justices have no interest in the
fact that lower courts have routinely considered the existence of confusion
about something, including about whether the TM owner gave permission
for an accused use, as proof of trademark use.

For example, Justice Jackson said: “trademark is not about
expression. Trademark is not about the First Amendment and … people’s ability
to speak. Trademark is about source identifying and preventing consumer
confusion.”

That has to be a normative concept of source identification! And it’s
incoherent (if things are confusing, it’s because they send a message about
source or sponsorship; she has to mean that trademark infringement is not about
protected expression—but that doesn’t really explain what trademark registration
is about.)

Justice Jackson’s indifference to expressive elements of TMs
also conflicts with the Court’s previous claims in Tam, and even Jack Daniel’s,
that TMs themselves often have lots of non-source-indicating expressive
meaning. Court can’t seem to figure out how to handle that duality, which
continues a tradition of courts pretending that TMs are pure
information-sharing devices unless they are also badges of honor—related also
to the rapid and stunning about face in the political valence of commercial
speech doctrine, which has contributed to the Court’s hesitance to say anything
about how to link TMs to commercial speech

Pending PSU case may give us some insight on how a court
might think about these TM issues post-JDI and Abitron: use on the front of a
T-shirt with distinct branding, does it matter that the front of the T-shirt
shows public domain, historic images referring to PSU?

One final comment about Gov’t examples, offered as a reason
that 2(c) covered ground that (a) and (d) don’t beyond just preventing critical
uses:

“If the Los Angeles Lakers described their product as Jack
Nicholson’s favorite team or the Chicago Bulls describe their product as Barack
Obama’s favorite team or a restaurant in which a senator has had dinner, uses
the slogan, Senator X Ate Here.

And none of those would really be excludable under 2(a) or
2(d) based on the false suggestion clause because they would imply a connection
between the living individual and the product, but what it would be a
connection that actually existed.”

First, that just seems false about how the PTO would treat
such applications. Second: If the Court agreed that these statements were
truthful and didn’t create a false connection that would be fantastic! Right
now lower courts would readily find false endorsement because even if the
statements are true, the people at issue didn’t agree to have the company
promote those things.

Jasmine Abdel-Khalik, University of Missouri-Kansas City
School of Law

TM gives a power to suppress speech of third parties; this
matters.

Identity disparaging terms are not used in a vacuum; the
intent of TM owner is that others will use the term to identify their product.
And sometimes that will be to avoid association. But if you choose to wear a
Burberry coat, you’ve made that choice. What about the rest of the audience
that doesn’t want that affiliation? The only way to refer to that product is to
use the TM, e.g. the former name of the Washington Commanders—you become a “captive
speaker.” So registration is both giving rights to exclude others’ speech and
force the audience to use the name to explain what they do or don’t want to
engage with.

History of barring disparaging speech. [Equates defamatory
and disparaging; I don’t think that’s accurate, among other things because of
the difference between truth/falsifiable statements and nonfalsifiable
statements.]

Merchandising cases: part of the problem is that our rules
for merchandising are too expansive. Makes more sense for a preexisting
business that then makes promotional items, as opposed to a business focused on
merchandising messages like “Live, Laugh, Love.”

Alexandra Roberts, Northeastern University School of Law

Substantial overlaps in 2(a), (c), (d). Also note this is
not the individual vetoing the use—the PTO says consent is needed.

ROP and dignity claims: is that really what TM is for? The
Fed. Cir. Says the gov’t has no valid interest in restricting political speech.
Elster: gov’t has no interest in facilitating unconstitutional application of
state law. Are there any implications here for a federal right of publicity if
the gov’t accepts the goal that is not preventing confusion or aiding the flow
of commerce?

Michael Keyes, Dorsey & Whitney

Will Bad Spaniels’ new disclaimer get them out of the
doghouse?  Replicated the Jerry Ford
survey that found 29% net confusion over all questions (who makes or puts out,
affiliation, permission); respondents had to acknowledge that they could read
the hangtag. Showed the new hangtag that has the survey questions and proposed
answers, with the answer to “why” being “because I’m smart.”

71/216 still said “Jack Daniels” in response to at least one
question, 33%. Only 5 people entered “because I’m smart.”

About ½ of confused respondents from both surveys said JD in
response to 2 or more questions (48/53%).

On just authorization/approval, on original study 23 out of
67 believed needed JD approval or authorization.

On followup, only 5 of 71 believed that JD’s approval or
authorization was required.

But a big jump in those who thought there was a “business
affiliation” between VIP and JD—went from 6% to 30%.

What happened? Consumers articulated there were visual
similarities in the verbatims.

“Because it looks like a bottle of JD!” “Because they look alike”

Takeaways: disclaimer significantly decreased number that
thought BS needed approval or authorization but also appears to have increased
the number of consumers who nonetheless believed there was a connection b/t the
two companies, netting the same.

Maybe this disclaimer is just too much? People seem to have
looked at it to answer the questions differently.

Q: how do we know what people understand “authorization” to
mean?

A: we don’t, but that’s the language of 43(a) [though
presumably in 43(a) it has a meaning!]

Q: is the disclaimer just too long b/c people don’t read?

A: maybe, but the authorization answer change is
interesting. Only 5 respondents read and followed the directive at the end.

Roberts: is the interpretation that the respondents read the
hangtag and didn’t believe it? [or from an interpretation of “business
affiliation” that includes “this is a reference to that”]

Is this really a point of sale disclaimer if people are
buying online?

A: Agreed on point of sale. This survey format is not designed
to plumb the depths of understanding of authorization or approval. This is only
one variation between the two—test and control. Clearly there’s a difference in
responses about authorization in the two surveys. We don’t ask what they think
authorization means. That’s not why we do surveys.

Abdul-Khalik: these may be badly written questions, but we
also accept that courts accept them all the time.

A: you can say they’re vague and ambiguous but they’re used
all the time and you’re trying to replicate market conditions. Can’t tell you why
there was a big shift between authorization and business affiliation. But in
the “why” answers they said “because they look alike,” which is the insight we
can glean into consumer state of mind. [Yeah, that’s I think the point: that they
seem to think “business affiliation” and “look alike/reference” are the same
thing—or at least you don’t know what “business affiliation” means to them, and
it’s a lot more vague and meaningless than “authorization/permission” or “who
puts this out?”.]

Linford: we tend not to control for education in these
surveys, and that doesn’t get tested; we tend to have class biases and an
objectively reasonable consumer standard would leave behind the relatively
uneducated consumers. So surveys could be useful (if they were capturing the
whole market—which they aren’t always, especially given that online respondents
are likely to be more educated/wealthier).

A: agreed that this could matter.

Q: what about flags?

A: The rationale is very similar to 2(c): don’t want the gov’t
involved in the indignities of commerce—even if the gov’t is the applicant!
Courts also worry about handing gov’t agencies the power to suppress speech
outside of a targeted anti-impersonation law; TM rights are too broad.

Q: dilution’s fate?

A: we hope so.

Roberts: yes, there was a lot of focus on confusion, but
oral argument also featured bits of propertization: it’s my name so no one can
use it without my permission. [That helps explain the bad statutory
interpretation of JDI where they used the use as a mark constraint on one
exception to interpret another exception that very explicitly does not have
that constraint.]

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New comment on a paper about YouTube and music

 Here.

This useful article about the effects of music on YouTube on consumption of the same music elsewhere should be understood for what it is: An empirical investigation of YouTube’s effects. It allows no conclusions about “safe harbors” both because YouTube was not relying on the safe harbor regime either before or after the relevant policy change and because, as YouTube’s lack of reliance shows, the safe harbor regime primarily protects thousands of websites that don’t behave like YouTube. Under the European Union’s new Article 17, sites like YouTube are now required to negotiate with copyright owners to license works uploaded by users who do not own the copyright thereto. YouTube, however, was already doing this. The article [Wlömert N, Papies D, Clement M, Spann M (2023) Frontiers: The interplay of user-generated content, content industry revenues, and platform regulation: Quasi-experimental evidence from YouTube. Marketing Sci., ePub ahead of print October 27, https://doi.org/10.1287/mksc.2022.0080] has implications for what music companies should ask for in these negotiations. However, it would be a mistake to generalize from YouTube to the Internet as a whole.

RT: This was kind of frustrating! The authors seem to think that, with a licensing/filtering requirement, there wouldn’t be much music on a given site, whereas with a notice and takedown regime, there would be a lot. (You know, the way there is on Wikipedia and Ravelry and all those other DMCA-compliant sites.) So they insist that their evidence–which is about music consumption on other sites before and after YouTube cut a deal with GEMA–shows something about the effects of “safe harbors” generally. But since YouTube was not relying on safe harbors before the change–when it just blocked GEMA music in Germany–or after–when it licensed–their evidence cannot stand for the proposition they claim it stands for. If anything, it shows the opposite, that licensing leads to more reliable availability (and thus makes YouTube a better substitute for other sources of music). 

from Blogger http://tushnet.blogspot.com/2023/10/new-comment-on-paper-about-youtube-and.html

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